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Electronic Ignition

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Kent of SW MO

11-10-2005 05:28:54




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Would there be any interest in an electronic replacment for the points and condenser in the Fairbanks-Morse Magnetos.

Kent




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Kent of SW MO

11-11-2005 06:17:36




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 Re: Electronic Ignition in reply to Kent of SW MO, 11-10-2005 05:28:54  
If you what to see what I have come up with, you will have to buy it. What I was seeking is if there was enough interest to buy components to start production.

Kent



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Sid

11-11-2005 17:17:23




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 Re: Electronic Ignition in reply to Kent of SW MO, 11-11-2005 06:17:36  
The intrest is here. But if you want to sell you need to let us know just what it is you got and how much is it going to be. And why is it better.



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Kent of SW MO

11-12-2005 08:46:02




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 Re: Electronic Ignition in reply to Sid, 11-11-2005 17:17:23  
I think I will start taking pre-production orders.

Why is this better than mechanical contact points? You do not have to keep the contacts clean on the point so the engine will run. Also you will not have to adjust the points from time to time as the rubbing block on the point wears. I installed a set-up in a Wico mag from an E Allis-Chalmers Tractor cira 1920's yesterday. The owner, a local Allis collector I have known for year was having trouble with the point corroding keeping it from running after the tractor had set a while.

I am looking ata price of: $19.95 for 90 day warranty; $27.95 for a one year warranty, $35.95 for a two year warranty all with a $6.95 shipping and handling.

Prefer U.S. Postal Money Order in the EXACT amount of an order. This convertion will work with all Unitized Mags but will be differant mounting for each brand. I am starting with F-B Mag first.

If you are interested contact me at my Email above.

Kent

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Sid

11-10-2005 16:23:38




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 Re: Electronic Ignition in reply to Kent of SW MO, 11-10-2005 05:28:54  
Yes, lets see what you got.



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Sid

11-10-2005 16:23:39




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 Re: Electronic Ignition in reply to Kent of SW MO, 11-10-2005 05:28:54  
Yes, lets see what you got.



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Sid

11-10-2005 16:23:25




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 Re: Electronic Ignition in reply to Kent of SW MO, 11-10-2005 05:28:54  
Yes, lets see what you got.



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Sid

11-10-2005 16:22:38




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 Re: Electronic Ignition in reply to Kent of SW MO, 11-10-2005 05:28:54  
Yes, lets see what you got.



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Sid

11-10-2005 16:22:28




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 Re: Electronic Ignition in reply to Kent of SW MO, 11-10-2005 05:28:54  
Yes, lets see what you got.



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11-10-2005 16:25:12




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 Re: Electronic Ignition in reply to Sid , 11-10-2005 16:22:28  
how excited I am.



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Kent of SW MO

11-10-2005 15:12:39




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 Re: Electronic Ignition in reply to Kent of SW MO, 11-10-2005 05:28:54  
I have a prototype working. Just wondering if there is any interest or if restores would not like it because it would not be "correct".

Kent



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farmerwannabe

11-10-2005 08:51:31




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 Re: Electronic Ignition in reply to Kent of SW MO, 11-10-2005 05:28:54  
It'd be worth a look for sure. How far along with it are you?



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John T

11-10-2005 07:40:42




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 Re: Electronic Ignition in reply to Kent of SW MO, 11-10-2005 05:28:54  
Kent, Im not quite sure what your thoughts or intentions would be regarding an electronic switch (to replace mechanical points) for a MAGNETO Ignition?? As Im sure you know, the elec switch is more useful for battery powered external coil distributor ignitions. An elec switch requires voltage to power up the electronics, so it dont sound practical for a straight non electric hand start mag ignition tractor. The mags have internal coils which are energized by the rotating magnet inside them versus a battery powering them, so I dont see near as much of an advantage of an elec switch on them (if one was rigged up with battery power to operate it) as the battery powered coil ignition where you can use a high voltage high energy coil and pump more current through it, since the elec switch can handle more plus switch it faster, and discharge more energy across a wider plug gap.

I guess Im unsure of what n how yu propose to use an elec switch for mag tractors??? An elec switch is definitely superior over mechanical bouncing burning points as a current switch, but tying it with a magneto dont sound as practical to me. However, if your just using the mags points to switch current for a jury rigged battery powered coil ignition, then I see an interest in using an elec switch, but thats sort of a jury rigged modification in the first place.

Im not intending to shoot down what may be a great idea, I just dont understand your intentions and what you have in mind?? and am merely tossing out some feedback

Lemme know, Best wishes n God Bless

John T

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BCnT

11-10-2005 08:05:41




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 Re: Electronic Ignition in reply to John T, 11-10-2005 07:40:42  
John these conversions have been around for years on lawn mowers and they work very well on magnetos...i've toyed with the idea of adapting them to other apps too.



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John T

11-10-2005 11:16:06




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 Re: Electronic Ignition in reply to BCnT, 11-10-2005 08:05:41  
Hey Bc, Ditto on the lawn mower type ignitions, I just wasnt (still not) sure what he had in mind of doing or modifying?? The lawn mowers, of course, have one advantage of a high RPM rope pull versus the extreme slowwwww www hand crank of a tractor engine which is why their mags have that darn spring wind n trip mechanism which can be troublesome grrrrr rrrr.

Thanks n take care

John T



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