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what year??????

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bennieb

10-29-2005 20:42:18




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Ihavea tractor with engine numbers rightside-rsu3019317 leftside wd301495pa what year is it




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cbp

10-30-2005 04:40:51




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 Re: what year?????? in reply to bennieb, 10-29-2005 20:42:18  
Eldon hit it on the head there... to find the tractor year really needs the tractor number.

But your engine was built in 1951. I was suspicious of the 301xxx on the second number since it happens to be a common casting number (first 3 digits) on that engine model but the format (WD301xxxPA) does look like the engine number so the 301 must be coincidence. A lot of people have thought the 3019xx was the engine number but I think that's a casting number. Since there were often many times as many engines built as tractors with some models, it's not uncommon to find one has been swapped. Worse, In the WD case, the basic engine casting was in use for years with other units (combines, tractors, industrial and power units, e.g., a friend has a grader with the same engine) and that makes the tractor number and engine number way off. Near as I can tell, the first WD to roll off the line had an engine number up over 200000 so AC didn't start the series over from previous castings. They just stuffed the WD in front of the number and continued on in 48. Kinda interesting. The first number appears to be the block type. The second does look like a real engine number and if so is a 51.

The tractor range you are looking for is a stamped WD followed by a number in this range, (1948) 7+, (1949) 9280+, (1950) 35471+, (1951) 72356+, (1952) 105216+, (1953) 131273+. These are shown in the "Serial Numbers" to the left under the Research & Info heading if you need a quick reference.

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bennieb

10-30-2005 05:53:28




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 Re: what year?????? in reply to cbp, 10-30-2005 04:40:51  
thanks guys,the transmisso numbers are o-1-kc 200931 b 0r 6.do you think they match engine #no right side rsu3019-31-7 left side wd301495pa any help ??? thanks this is a week end project. i have yet to find #no on brake ,rearend.



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Texas Denny

10-30-2005 08:44:41




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 Re: what year?????? in reply to bennieb, 10-30-2005 05:53:28  
Bennie, the only number that defines the year of the tractor is the one on the differential behind the left brake cover. It doesn't matter what any of these other numbers are. Allis defined the year by the number on the differential.



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Eldon (WA)

10-29-2005 22:35:49




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 Re: what year?????? in reply to bennieb, 10-29-2005 20:42:18  
Check for the tractor s/n stamped below the LH brake cover on the vertical surface of the differential casting. That will give a more accurate year.



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