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1941 B follow up and questions

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farmerwannabe

10-15-2005 15:55:16




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Hello yet again all. The good news is I"m going to get to keep the B. Worked everything out on the homefront and we (yes, both of us!) decided it"s a good tractor to keep around. Can"t say I"m disappointed about that. Now..the bad news. For some reason the starter will only kick in now and then. I can hear the starter getting some juice when I try to start it, but it only turns over now and then. If I went there right now and tried, it would turn over just fine, but after doing that once or twice it will only turn it 1/5 the way over or so, then not at all. I know the battery is charged and in good condition, so it isn"t that. The 6-volt system is still in place, and the positive ground strap is quite a bit smaller (diamer wise...so a higher gauge) than the negative lead. It gets pretty warm when trying to crank it over for a while, too. I cleaned up the connections between the ground strap and the column where it bolts to, as well as the contacts between the starter and the starter switch. What else am I missing? There must be something fairly (I hope) simple causing it to not turn over. Any help with this would be REALLY appreciated. Thanks again.

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Kent of SW MO

10-16-2005 14:44:43




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 Re: 1941 B follow up and questions in reply to farmerwannabe, 10-15-2005 15:55:16  
I would replace the cables with the 0 or 00 cable. I like to use welding led cable. I also think the pipe where the ground cable ws originally connect is a poor place to connect the ground cable. Look for a more substantial place to bolt the cable. Youwill have to use a longer cable and it WILL NOT BE STOCK, but it will start better. If anything in the starter wiring is getting hot during cranking, you have a bad connection at the heat point which needs checking out.

Kent

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Dick L

10-16-2005 06:36:54




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 If You Find Its A Switch in reply to farmerwannabe, 10-15-2005 15:55:16  
It will not break the bank. I see this one on ebay.



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Zonie

10-16-2005 00:23:36




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 Re: 1941 B follow up and questions in reply to farmerwannabe, 10-15-2005 15:55:16  
I have a WD that would not start because the starter switch would not make contact with the stud on the starter because the plastic insulater was melted and the stud moved and wouldn"t make contact.



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Texas Denny

10-15-2005 19:18:10




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 Re: 1941 B follow up and questions in reply to farmerwannabe, 10-15-2005 15:55:16  
I agree with most of these posts. Your cables are probably the problem. Get big ones. As BCnT says, 0 gauge or 00 gauge are best. And make sure of your grounds and all connections.



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JMS/MN

10-15-2005 17:37:50




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 Re: 1941 B follow up and questions in reply to farmerwannabe, 10-15-2005 15:55:16  
Same as the others said, plus.....remove the starter and file/brush the starter housing and the cast housing it fits in to. Need to maintain a good ground contact- it is only a one-wire system. Many other electrical problems can be cured by fixing the ground contact. Growing up 40 years ago (ok- 50) on an active farm, it was not an issue because most tractors got used almost every day- but now when they sit for a while they develop corrosion, etc.

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farmerwannabe

10-16-2005 08:50:00




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 Re: Cable and starter questions in reply to JMS/MN, 10-15-2005 17:37:50  
Well..thanks again to everyone for the advice. I'm going to change the cables over to 0 or 00, BUT, exactly which ones should I change, just the two leading from the battery (to ground and to the starter)? Also, I was able to get the jam nut loose, but am not sure how to get the screw loose that holds the starter in place. It is slotted for a screwdriver, but I'm worried I'll end up mangling it before it comes loose. How'd you guys go about dealing with this? One more thing...the screw closest to the engine that holds the starter switch in place is stripped..it holds, but is real loose. Any ideas about this as well?

Thanks again!

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Dick L

10-16-2005 16:46:09




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 I'm Just Guessing But in reply to farmerwannabe, 10-16-2005 08:50:00  
If the switch is loose you might have found your problem. I would pull the starter out and tap a larger thread. On the starter holding stud and jam nut, Get a box wrench the correct size for the jam nut and whack it with a hammer to break it loose. To get the stud out get a BIG screw driver. One that fits the slot, not some little dinky thing, best with a square shank that you can put a small wrench on. Then push in as hard as you can while turning it out. Tap it a few times on the end before trying to turn it out. Tap not beat. I have removed them when someone had already messed up the slot by using a punch and hammer to unscrew them.

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Dick L

10-15-2005 17:06:30




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 Two other places I Would Look in reply to farmerwannabe, 10-15-2005 15:55:16  
The lock stud might need cleaning and tightened. The other is the contacts under the starter switch. I have taken them apart and filed them and get them to work a while longer. Probly best to get a new switch. I have had to have the contact on the starter itsself replaced. NAPA can get them for you and our farm stores have them hanging in their tinker parts section. I have had the rebuild shop replace the contact studs on the starters for me. If you take it in to a rebuild shop you will want it gone thru and brushes replaced, most likely.

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BCnT

10-15-2005 16:52:27




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 Re: 1941 B follow up and questions in reply to farmerwannabe, 10-15-2005 15:55:16  
first off..congrats on bein able to keep your toy

6 volts are notorious about cranking probs...when replacing ground or hot lead i never use anything less than 0 gauge and 00 would be better...if your ground strap looks like whats under hood of a modern car,replace it with the heavier cable...that will make diagnosis easier.

also after re-reading your post i dont see any mention of cleaning battery connections...even if they look good outside they mite be dirty inside clamps.
good luck

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