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banjo

09-15-2005 11:53:58




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I need an allignment tool for a ac 170 diesel. 1 1/4" x 10 spline x 2" x 30 spline. Does anyone know where to get one? thanks




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banjo

09-16-2005 06:54:15




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 Re: need clutch allignment tool in reply to banjo, 09-15-2005 11:53:58  
Ok. couple of drawbacks. 1. need steps for 2 different shaft sizes as was mentioned by Don. only problem machine shop is 50 miles away. I have one for a john deer i might can wrap tape around to get it close.

Universal doesn't look like it will work. pilot bearing no problem. i see the different size bushings. what about the 1 1/4 to 2 inch step? how do you get that with a straight alignment tool.

I will figure something out, I always do. Just thought someone has had to change the clutch and bought an alignment tool that fits.

Also does the pilot bearing just fit loose? the old one just fell out when i got the pressure plate, clutch off. new one just slips in and out. it is a little snug on the shaft.it is a sealed bearing.just checking fit. still waiting on clutch plate to arrive. thanks

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Don Dittmar

09-16-2005 13:04:15




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 Re: need clutch allignment tool in reply to banjo, 09-16-2005 06:54:15  
The pilot should be snug in the flywheel and fit loose on the shaft. If this is not the case, you can either have the flywheel built up and turned down or mic it and find a bushing that fits it, the ream to input shaft size



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banjo

09-16-2005 14:50:08




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 Re: need clutch allignment tool in reply to Don Dittmar, 09-16-2005 13:04:15  
mine is just opposite. as long as one is snug will it create a problem. after all it is a bearing and it is going to spin. it just seems both should be snug being a bearing. I assumed when it was running the friction would build up and make it snug and turn as normel. Never messed witha tractor pilot bearing. I'm used to auto bushings. no bearing just bronze bushing.



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DON DITTMAR

09-16-2005 05:00:07




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 Re: need clutch allignment tool in reply to banjo, 09-15-2005 11:53:58  
THEY ALSO MAKE A UNIVERSAL ONE YOU CAN PICK UP AT AUTO PARTS OR A TOOL TRUCK. IT COMES WITH A SHAFT AND DIFFERENT SIZED TAPERED PILIOTS THAT THREAD ON THE END. I USED A SETUP LIKE THIS TO PUT THE CLUTCH IN MY D14



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Bob

09-15-2005 22:56:35




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 Re: need clutch allignment tool in reply to banjo, 09-15-2005 11:53:58  
You don't need the splines.

Simply have a piece of stock machined in the lathe with the end the correct diameter for the pilot bearing, and then 2 steps up, machined to fit the ID of the splines, so it slips inside the splines freely, but with very little "slop".



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Fern(Mi)

09-15-2005 17:41:42




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 Re: need clutch allignment tool in reply to banjo, 09-15-2005 11:53:58  
Not having tools you ask for, have margined clutch plates under preasure plates on varied re-assemblies.



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banjo

09-15-2005 17:47:33




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 Re: need clutch allignment tool in reply to Fern(Mi), 09-15-2005 17:41:42  
I have gotten lucky on vehicles also but trying to wrestle this tractor, i would like to get it the first time.seems i have to do it all by myself.



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BCnT

09-16-2005 10:17:15




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 Re: need clutch allignment tool in reply to banjo, 09-15-2005 17:47:33  
something that mite save you a machine shop charge is turn the pilot shaft out of wood...alot easier to find a friend with a wood lathe...i've done this in the past with excellent results...and use wood from shipping pallets...theres always good solid stuff in 2x's

another option is to get a pilot shaft out of a junk tranny
good luck
chuck



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