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WD problem with rear wheels and a bolt

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Guyzoo

08-06-2005 18:55:10

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Hi guys, I needs to know if I can remove the final drive without removing the rear wheels because the rim is welded to the adjusting brackets and the adjusting brackets are welded to the center rim. So I jacked up the tractor partially on blocks and loosen all the hub bolts but the wheel didn't want to come out of the hub, even with heat and force.

My other problem is that one bolt to the rear of the frame rail is stuck. I tried to remove it with a 1" impact socket and a 24" 1/2 pry bar with another 3 foot pipe that I slide over it but it still stuck!! What do I have to do or to try?

Thank you very much to all

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Guyzoo

08-08-2005 10:32:12

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Re: WD problem with rear wheels and a bolt in reply to Guyzoo, 08-06-2005 18:55:10

Thanks guys, I finally removed the bolt last night so this problem is solved.
But it is not quite solved for the wheels. What do you guys think about removing the hub with the wheel instead of removing the final drive with the wheel
By the way I can not do it now, but when it was running, I tried to drive it with the bolts loose,but it doesn't help. If I can remove the wheel with the hub, I will be able to take a piece of hard wood and a big hammer and tap on the hub to remove it.
THANKS AGAIN

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wdtom

08-07-2005 17:21:53

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Re: WD problem with rear wheels and a bolt in reply to Guyzoo, 08-06-2005 18:55:10

Wheel, can you drive it or tow it with the lug bolts loose? this could loosen up the wheel on the hub allowing you to jack it upand then remove the wheel and rim.

Frame bolt, The idea of striking it with a punch is good, then just keep carnking on it until something gives. At the worst you will have to remove a broken off bolt grom the casting, not impossible to do after the frame rail is off.

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Texas Denny

08-07-2005 10:55:17

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Re: WD problem with rear wheels and a bolt in reply to Guyzoo, 08-06-2005 18:55:10

I forgot your second question. Those bolts are tight. Try soaking it with penetrating oil on the bolt end and where the nut is against the frame rail for a few days. That might help. You could also take a large punch (1/2" or larger). Use the punch on the side of the nut on a flat. Hit the punch firmly with a ball peen hammer. The jarring plus the penetrant should help. Rather than WD-40, use something like Micro-Mist or 3M which has a lubricant with the penetrant.

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Texas Denny

08-07-2005 10:49:12

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Re: WD problem with rear wheels and a bolt in reply to Guyzoo, 08-06-2005 18:55:10

Guyzoo, I've tried to imagine a way to remove the final drive with the wheel in place. My first thought is that it is impossible. My second though is you might wreck something doing it.

My suggestion is to get one of those cutoff tools or/and a grinder. Cut those welds you described so it can be taken apart the way it was designed. In the short and long run, you'll be happy that you spent the effort to repair this blunder.

Some people get welders and weld everything that moves and shouldn't. And usually the problem can be fixed without welding but it takes longer.

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