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185 PTO Not Live????

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HH

08-01-2005 09:58:54




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Did AC make any 185's with out live power? My friend has one that will not disengage unless you shut the engaging lever off or put the clutch in. What would cause this or is it not a live system?




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Don Dittmar

08-01-2005 13:22:30




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 Re: 185 PTO Not Live???? in reply to HH, 08-01-2005 09:58:54  
HH There is a difference between live and independant. Your 180 is live, just not independent. You do not have to be independent to be live.



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A. Zimmer

08-01-2005 12:17:25




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 Re: 185 PTO Not Live???? in reply to HH, 08-01-2005 09:58:54  
Even though I haven"t had it long we just bought a 200 and use it on something with PTO nearly all the time. The two tractors, I believe, have the same general setup. The PTO is a live system, just not independent. With our 200 to start the PTO you push in the foot clutch, pull the PTO lever up (with PD in Neutral) and let out the foot clutch, then to start forward (or backward) movement, ease the PD into high or low. To stop the tractor with the PTO still running, just move the PD back into neutral. And to turn off the PTO engage the foot clutch and push the PTO lever back down. You essentially have 2 clutching mechanisms on the tractor. The foot clutch which is in front of everything (PD, transmission, and PTO) that acts more or less as an all stop. And the Power Director, which stops the transmission but allows the PTO to keep turning.

Clear as mud?

A.Zimmer

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HH

08-01-2005 13:29:28




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 Re: 185 PTO Not Live???? in reply to A. Zimmer, 08-01-2005 12:17:25  
Also, is the power director the hi/low shift and you put it in nuetral or is it some other lever. If you can describe the lever and where it is located. I'll forward this onto my friend. Thanks again!



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A.Zimmer

08-01-2005 13:38:15




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 Re: 185 PTO Not Live???? in reply to HH, 08-01-2005 13:29:28  
Yes, the Power Director is the hi/low. Its located on right hand side of the tractor if you are facing towards the steering wheel. Im not sure if 185's have console control or not, but if so, its the large lever just to the right of the throttle.



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HH

08-01-2005 13:25:51




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 Re: 185 PTO Not Live???? in reply to A. Zimmer, 08-01-2005 12:17:25  
Thanks for clearing this up. I've got a WD-45 that has a fluid clutch that I guess acts like a power director. I'll explain this to my friend.



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old

08-01-2005 11:46:57




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 Re: 185 PTO Not Live???? in reply to HH, 08-01-2005 09:58:54  
Well if its like the 190XT I had it didn;t really have live power but it was set up so if you put the high/low shifter in netrul you sort of had live power. And yes if you pushed the cltuch down every thing stopped



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HH

08-01-2005 10:05:58




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 Re: 185 PTO Not Live???? in reply to HH, 08-01-2005 09:58:54  
I forgot to mention that the PTO stops when you put the clutch in which it should not if it is a live system. Were all the 185's hydraulic engagement? This one seems to be hydraulic as you can engage it with the engine running.



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