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johesmi

05-27-2005 18:20:17




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I have an Allis Chalmers model G that I had a small problem with a short ,after correction this problem I find that it will not charge,looking for some suggestions on where my problem might be ,thanks in advance for any inf.




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steve(ill)

05-27-2005 19:08:46




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 Re: no charge in reply to johesmi, 05-27-2005 18:20:17  
to test any generator, take the F and A wires off the terminals and mark them.--- ground the F to the bare frame. put a volt meter across the A anda F terminals and start tractor. see what voltage you get. should be much more than 6 since it is not regulated in this test.-- if you dont have a volt meter, run these tests. first, ground the F terminal and start tractor and see if you meter on the tractor reads a charge. if so, the light switch wiring or bad ground on the switch which forms the generator ground.--- second- jumper a wire across the cutout terminals. this is a small electrical box on the generator normally. touch both terminals together, if the tractor starts to charge, then the cutout has a bad contacts inside.

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souNdguy

06-02-2005 22:04:28




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 Re: no charge in reply to steve(ill), 05-27-2005 19:08:46  
Grounding the "F" terminal only works for "A" circuit gennies. Grounding the F terminal on a "B" circuit genny won't get you anywhere at all.

Also.. 3 brush gennies may not even have an "F" terminal... Good generic advice.. but doesn't apply to " Any genies " as stated.

Also.. by grounding the F terminal on an A circuit genny, you are full fielding it.. regulator field controll is effectively bypassed AND maxed.. output on the armature should be max, assuming the genny is polarized and outputting correctly. A circuit gennies can be polarized by shorting armature to battery momentarilly, when not running.. same with the cutout relay / vrwith cutout section..

B circuits can be polarized by jumpering field to battery, momentarilly, when not running. Be certain what type genny/vr you have.. polariging a A circuit genny like a B circuit can burn out a good vr in seconds. If you are in doubt.. assuming the correct vr is installed.. look at the bias resistor on the bottom.. On "A" circuit jobs, the resistor will be between field tab and ground plane.. on B circuit jobs, the bias resistor will be between armature (genny) tab, and field tab.

As mentioned.. full fielding an "A" circuit genny is accomplished by grounding the field tab.. full fielding the "B" circuit genny is accomplished by powering the field by jumpering arm to field ( batt to field does the same.. ). 3rd brush jobs are their own cobble... I consider them "B" circuit as the field is powered of the adjustable 3rd brush.. especially since you can remove the brush and convert them to a 2brush genny by using an appropriate voltage "B" circuit regulator to copntroll the field wire that used to attach to the 3rd brush..


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