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Cabbed tractor compressors

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Hurst

05-08-2005 19:09:03




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I was curious what you guys have used to replace the compressors on your Allis chalmers tractors that had the compressor that the 7000 series and the 200, 210, and 220 had, and possibly the 8000 sereis (anything with the turbo 301 motor). Can you replace them with compressors from cars, like sadens or yorks? What did you do for brackets? Is it hard to make your own brakets to bolt on the compressor? Any other tricks to replacing the originial? thanks for your help.

Hurst

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acorange

05-12-2005 06:21:04




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 Re: Cabbed tractor compressors in reply to Hurst, 05-08-2005 19:09:03  
The 7000 that I had used a delco A-6 compressor that was used on a zillion GM cars. You could
get all of the A/C parts needed from a boneyard
but probably the easiest thing to do would be to get a self contained unit that bolts to the top of the cab and runs on 12 volts.
These can be found at RV dealers or RV parts supply catalogs.



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Chuck in Tejas

05-09-2005 06:27:35




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 Re: Cabbed tractor compressors in reply to Hurst, 05-08-2005 19:09:03  
assuming your tractor already has air,the same compressor type can be used if you want to convert it to 134a.drain system of oil and replace dryer and add required amount of PAG oil.

jc whitney and a few other places used to sell brackets to convert the old box yorks [like on ford cars] to later sandens.

as far as making brackets it mite be easier to mate brackets from tractor and donor vehicle than starting from scratch.

hope this helps

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Bob

05-09-2005 15:14:16




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 Re: Cabbed tractor compressors in reply to Chuck in Tejas, 05-09-2005 06:27:35  
Polyol ester oil is recommended for conversions from R-12 to 134A, rather that PAG.

All-new systems for R-134 use PAG.



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Chuck in Tejas

05-09-2005 17:41:51




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 Re: Cabbed tractor compressors in reply to Bob, 05-09-2005 15:14:16  
learn something new every day...i been using PAG to convert ever since R-12 went over $20.00 a can...hope they dont crater now that i know better ;)
thanx



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Hurst

05-09-2005 07:39:19




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 Re: Cabbed tractor compressors in reply to Chuck in Tejas, 05-09-2005 06:27:35  
I don't have A/C yet, I was going to buy a 190xt with a year round cab and add A/C to it. I am probably going to use an underdash unit for the A/C and leave the original heater box. What do you think, good or bad idea? I don't have a compressor, mounting brackets, or anything like hoses, dryer, condensor, evaporator, underdash unit, etc, I am just trying to get an idea of what I will need. There is a good metal shop down the road from me, would they be able to make some brakets to mount the compressor? Would they be something simple enough to cross with some off of a car or something? What other options do I have for mounting brackets? I was thinking that I would mount it on the opposite side as the alternator so I could run a single belt from the crank pulley to the compressor easily. Could you get a picture of an Allis tractor with a 301 cu diesel and A/C so I could get an idea of how to mount the compressor? thanks for all your help,

Hurst

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Chuck in Tejas

05-09-2005 08:23:56




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 Re: Cabbed tractor compressors in reply to Hurst, 05-09-2005 07:39:19  
a good fab shop should be able to make brackets for about anything. as far as mounting the compressor,it'll work anywhere you can find room.
you mite wanna take a walk thru a junkyard and see what's available and pick a system that ALL the components will fit your tractor or most any parts house will have under dash kits...other than brackets and hose,the kit should have everything you need.
i dont have a clue about the 301,maybe somebody else can provide pix.

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