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Gary Mckenzie

03-27-2005 07:59:55




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I'm looking at a 160 with 3 pt problems. The hyd oil was drained and left out for 6 mos, now the rockshaft won't lower. Initially I was told that it wouldn't raise, so I thought the pump had lost prime but it is working and flowing oil and the lift is all the way up but won't lower. Is there a valve that could be stuck? The tractor needs a lot of TLC (paint, seat, tires, wiring) but seems to run fine. What would be a reasonable amount to offer for this tractor? Thanks!

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golie north carolina

03-30-2005 17:54:56




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 Re: AC 160 in reply to Gary Mckenzie, 03-27-2005 07:59:55  
had same problem with my 160 cleaned strainer two or three times. also had to take remote valve apart and clean had stuck valve.also check hose on suction where you split tractor in half could be sucking air by hose. mine was sucking air and making lift jump.i doub't it's hydrolic pump unless it has a lot of hours it is steel gears and does't go bad to often.as for price i paid 300 dollars for mine .had to rebuild fuel injection pump and clutch put new brake discs .i now have about 2200 in this tractor and enjoy it so much i'm looking for another.

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Texas Denny

03-28-2005 19:16:54




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 Re: AC 160 in reply to Gary Mckenzie, 03-27-2005 07:59:55  
Gary, the 160 is a bit out of my league. But since noone else is on this, I'll try. It is possible but not likely that a valve is stuck. If a valve is stuck, and the the raise lower lever moves normally, the linkage would have to be broken. This isn't too likely. You could also check the valve sticking a couple more ways. Lift lever should be down. The easiest is to try and get the remote plugged into another cylinder. If the valve is stuck, there will be constant pressure on the remote and it will be impossible to connect the hose. If you don't have a hose, take an appropriate size socket handle and stick it in the remote outlet and try to push it off the seat. If you can, a small amount of fluid should come out - but not under pressure. If you get the oil to come out, the valve is not stuck on. So what is left is that the lift cylinders are stuck. This is possible. I think the 160 has external lift cylinders. Try unhooking one (pull a pin on the end toward the lift arms)and moving the lift arms. If no motion, unhook the other. If both are unhooked and you can't move the lift arms, your problem is in the lift arm bearings, etc. If the lift arms move freely, hook the cylinder you first unhooked back on and see if you can push in the piston. If neither cylinder can be moved, I'd remove one from the tractor and try try to get it to move offline first.

Probably won't solve it until you own it. Fortunately, this one doesn't sound like an expensive repair (though I would say just the opposite to the seller). Don't see many 160 tractors for sale. I expect they are worth what a D-15 is - about $3000-$4000 if everything works. I'd knock off a few hundred at least for no lift arm action. My email is open.

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