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D15 Restoration Questions

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Bumpkin

03-10-2005 19:06:37




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I"m in the process of restoring a 1967 D15 Series II. My goal is to put the tractor back as original as possible. However, I"m pretty sure the tractor has been painted at some time in the past. I have gathered up every picture of a D15 Series II I can find on the internet. However, all of them have been restored at some point and there are a few inconsitancies between them. As such, I have a few questions regarding how the tractor originally appeard and I"m hoping someone out there has answers to match. Following are the questions:

Was the air intake tube orange or black?
Were the rear rims/hubs cream/silver or just cream? (if silver, what silver?)
Same for the front rims, cream/silver or just cream?
Were the dust covers on the front hubs cream or orange?
Were the ends of the rear axles cream or orange?
Was the generator orange or black?
Was the distributor orange or black?
Was the coil orange or black?
Was the deluxe seat frame orange, black, or white?

Any information is appreciated. Thanx. Bumpkin (www.bumpkinland.com)

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Tom in Michigan

03-11-2005 09:34:12




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 Re: D15 Restoration Questions in reply to Bumpkin, 03-10-2005 19:06:37  
Bumpkin,

I own a D-15 Series II, 1963 vintage, so I found your post interesting. I would suggest a few things. First, look in Norm Swinford's book on A-C tractors. As I recall, there is a nice photo of a technician in a white suit pulling a corn planter on a D-15 SII. This might help answer a few questions. I would also recommend decals from Lyle Wacker (advertises in Old Allis News) when you get to that point. His stuff is reputed to be very complete.

Tom

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Bumpkin

03-11-2005 15:19:04




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 Re: D15 Restoration Questions in reply to Tom in Michigan, 03-11-2005 09:34:12  
Thanx for the reply. I've been reading quite a bit about that book, I guess I need to get my hands on a copy. Dad and I are restoring the D-15 now and have a D-10 waiting in the wings to be re-restored (was recently painted but the owner wants it restored not just painted). When those are done, if the owner is pleased, he'll also be sending us a 12, 14, 17, 19, 21, and possibly a WC with grader attachment.

As for decals, I've found a couple of different sets available. One of them has 16 (or was it 17) decals. I've only been able to find evidence of 10 on this tractor. After giving the tractor a good bath with a little Panther Red Hot, I am pretty sure it is original and has never been painted. So, I'm interested to see what all these other decals are. :) I did find photos of one restored 15 with an odd ball set of decals. I say odd ball because they have a series of lines running through the the words Allis Chalmers on the main hood decals. I have no idea where those came from. The decal sets I have found match the decals on this tractor, which I'm pretty sure are original. I can tell you one thing, they were a MAJOR pain to get off! Our normal methods (paint remover, decal remover, Oops, a heat gun, and/or a razor blade) wouldn't touch them at all. They sure don't make decals like that anymore. On later model tractors they come right off no problem.

Thanx again. Bumpkin

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Gatz

03-11-2005 07:32:36




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 Re: D15 Restoration Questions in reply to Bumpkin, 03-10-2005 19:06:37  
Bumpkin,
Most, if not all the answers are relative to the year.
(The D15 came out in 1960 and ended in 1968.)

Heres what's qutoed in Terry Dean's ALLIS-CHALMERS Farm Tractors and Crawlers DATA BOOK.....
Ser II had headlights on fenders. Black muffler.
Tractor painted Persian Orange #2. Grille painted Cream. Wheels are Cream, but rims are Silver.
Decals on hood are longer than Ser I.
"Series II" is labeled on sides of tank.

Not all the answers, but hope this helps...would be nice if someone posted a pic of a restored SerII.
Gatz

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Bumpkin

03-11-2005 15:01:44




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 Re: D15 Restoration Questions in reply to Gatz, 03-11-2005 07:32:36  
Thanx for the reply. I've already found 28 photos of 7 different restored Series II tractors. I was able to answer most of my qusestion based on those photos. However, on the items in question, there are differences between the tractors. After giving the tractor a good bath with a little Panther Red Hot, I am now pretty sure the tractor has never been painted. So, I'm also pretty sure the colors I'm seeing are the original colors for most of the items. So, I should be in good shape.

The data book you mentioned arrived today. :)

As for the wheels, I talked with an AC dealer today and he informed me that it all depends on the year (evern within the Series II tractors). This tractor is a 1967 and has all cream front rims with cream and silver rears so that is probably how we'll put it back. The front hubs are also cream. Well, they're actually rust colored, but there's no sign they were ever orange. :)

In a few months, I'll be a "expert" on this topic. We (Dad and I) are restoring the D-15 now and we've got a D-10 setting in the yard to be restored (or re-restored, it's already been done once, but not to the owner's standards). If the owner (we're doing these for someone else) is pleased with these two, he's also going to be sending a 12, 14, 17, 19, 21, and possibly a WC with grader attachment. All to be restored to as close to original as we can get them. Our normal business is repainting tractors for local farmers and doing touch-ups of leased tractors for a local dealership. This is our first full-blown restoration job. Wish me luck. :)

Thanx again. Bumpkin

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