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payne

02-20-2005 09:37:45




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I have a 1939 Model B witha a Hole in the gas tank. Ive tried JB weld and Bondo but it still leaks any suggestions on how to fix it. Thanks




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souNdguy

02-21-2005 11:49:38




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 Re: hole in gas tank in reply to payne, 02-20-2005 09:37:45  
Lots of good suggestions.

JB weld, per the factory, is gas resistant once cured, if placed on clean metal.

They also make an epoxy stick called waterweld.. it claims to stick to water, oil, or gas 'wet' metal.. I've used this on a leaky gas fitting onmy IH cub as a temp fix.. never did leak. I'v also used jbweld on a pinhole in a tank.. also worked. The sheetmetal screw and oring works if the tank metal is strong enough to let you pull it down.. You can then jbweld over that if you wanted to.

I havn't brazed any tanks.. but have soldered a few seams and holes over.. I would make sure the tank is 100% gas , fume and residue free.. Like wash it out with paint thinner.. then hit it with a soap or degreaser.. then let it airdry inthe sun.. for a few days before I get a torch around it..

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Steve in N.J.

02-21-2005 05:51:47




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 Re: hole in gas tank in reply to payne, 02-20-2005 09:37:45  
Payne,
The tank on my B was "peppered" with holes on the bottom. I took my tank to my radiator man after I glassbeaded it and he repaired the tank and added a sealer also for $75. Couldn't even see where the repair was. That was almost 5 years ago. So far, so good. If you have a local radiator shop, try them. Some radiator shops like the one I used also repair fuel tanks. Money well spent.
Steve@B&B

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OldFarmTractor

02-21-2005 05:30:27




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 Re: hole in gas tank in reply to payne, 02-20-2005 09:37:45  
Two methods.

Using the sheetmetal screw with a faucet washer is one method.

The method I saw a few years ago. Clean the spot to bright metal. Find a pre1982 penny (100%) copper. Clean it to brightness. Flux the whole thing and solder it on using either an soldering iron. This repair should last for a lifetime.



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Don Dittmar

02-21-2005 05:02:51




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 Re: hole in gas tank in reply to payne, 02-20-2005 09:37:45  
Bondo is not a sealer, just a filler. If you go over the hole with bondon only, the gas will seep through as bondo is pourous. Try jb weld over the hole, then bondo over the jbweld and sand smooth for a nice finish. It worked for me.



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kjm

02-20-2005 19:47:59




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 Re: hole in gas tank in reply to payne, 02-20-2005 09:37:45  
payne,Your local auto parts store will have a gas tank repair kit it worked for me. kjm



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payne

02-27-2005 05:28:59




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 Re: hole in gas tank in reply to kjm, 02-20-2005 19:47:59  
thank you



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payne

02-27-2005 05:28:23




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 Re: hole in gas tank in reply to kjm, 02-20-2005 19:47:59  
thanks for the advice



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A.Irvin

02-20-2005 18:06:42




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 Re: hole in gas tank in reply to payne, 02-20-2005 09:37:45  
My CA had a hole develop shortly after I bought it. Had a friend weld it with stainless. Worked great! Just clean it out and leave a little water in the bottom. No problem!



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payne

02-27-2005 05:25:03




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 Re: hole in gas tank in reply to A.Irvin, 02-20-2005 18:06:42  
than you for the help



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Texas Denny

02-20-2005 14:01:50




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 Re: hole in gas tank in reply to payne, 02-20-2005 09:37:45  
I have repaired these both ways ie JB Weld and the tank sealers. The best choice depends. I had some small, readily visible holes in the bottom of the tank on a WD. I used JB Weld and it worked perfect. A key to JB Weld working is getting the surface clean and dry and allowing enough time for cure. By clean, I mean shiny steel every where you are putting JB Weld. You should extend the Weld at least 1/2" past the holes. Try and use enough that there is some thickness to the weld. I don't think you can get it too thick.

I used the tank sealer on a G tank that had some weep around the seam. JB Weld doesn't work well in this situation. The instructions on this are bit more complicated but should be covered with the product.

And lastly, once I had a hole in the gas tank of my car. The steel was strong all around the hole. I found a small machine screw with threads all the way to the head and placed a hard rubber washer on it and screwed it in. Lasted as long as I had the car - 5 years.

I think you can braze the tank as well but this is very dangerous and should only be done by experts.

I would not think bondo would work in any situation. Wrong application.

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payne

02-27-2005 05:21:30




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 Re: hole in gas tank in reply to Texas Denny, 02-20-2005 14:01:50  
thank you for your help its greatly appriciated



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Lee in MI

02-20-2005 10:40:49




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 Re: hole in gas tank in reply to payne, 02-20-2005 09:37:45  
I had a gas tank off of a garden tractor that I tried to fix a leak in. Ended up using a gas tank sealer from JC Whitney. They had two varities, one for old leaded gas and one for no-lead at the time. I used the no-lead type and it worked great, no leaks to this day. My leak was in one of the seams.



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payne

02-27-2005 05:23:47




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 Re: hole in gas tank in reply to Lee in MI, 02-20-2005 10:40:49  
thanks



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