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jonesy

02-16-2005 08:52:24




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Has anyone ever fabricated their own wide front end to replace a narrow one? If you have, please let me know about your experience.




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Chris Brown

02-17-2005 04:15:59




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 Re: front end fabrication in reply to jonesy, 02-16-2005 08:52:24  
My neighbor has a A gleaner combine that has a narrow axle,it'd be perfect in a tractor. I have an a2 that is way too wide. I told him that I want that axle when he scraps the combine.



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steve(ill)

02-16-2005 18:07:13




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 Re: front end fabrication in reply to jonesy, 02-16-2005 08:52:24  
JMS is right, get an axle to start with. you will need the king pins, axle stub, and bushings (everthing on the ends). cut to length and make your own mount. i made a straight axle for a B to replace the wishbone. i welded a couple of 2 inch heavy pipe pieces on the ends of a box beam. then installed new bushings and reused the end- king pins, and external linkage and steering tie rod, ball joints.

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legn4

02-16-2005 17:37:04




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 Re: front end fabrication in reply to jonesy, 02-16-2005 08:52:24  
I parted out a Gleaner E. Sold a guy the rear axle to put in his WC puller. He bobbed the width,put him in a lighter weight class. Eddie



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play farmer

02-16-2005 10:23:56




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 Re: front end fabrication in reply to jonesy, 02-16-2005 08:52:24  
I also ame interested in this. I would love to see pics of anything that has been made by you professional tinkerers. I am especially interested in how you deal with the load at the bottom of the king pin (know thats not the proper name but). Is it better to use tappered bearings, thrust bearing or just a bushing?

Hope we get alot discussion on this one.

Thanks



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JMS/MN

02-16-2005 22:42:12




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 Re: front end fabrication in reply to play farmer, 02-16-2005 10:23:56  
The beauty of using a combine axle is that all that engineering is already taken care of. Width may be a concern, but older SP combines have fairly narrow widths and may not need to be cut down. If it needs narrowing, cut out equal amounts from each side of center and reweld. The center unit dictates how to make the mounting. As far as load capacity- Example: Gleaner F2 combine weighs a bit over 11000# without head, holds 125 bu corn= 20000# on two axles. No tractor front end weighs 10000. JD45 has narrower tread, smaller grain tank, but axle is still strong enough to hold up a tractor.

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JMS/MN

02-16-2005 09:16:50




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 Re: front end fabrication in reply to jonesy, 02-16-2005 08:52:24  
Haven't done one yet, but I will do one on the tractor currently in the shop. I'll use a steering axle from a Gleaner combine. Get one with power steering and use a hydrostatic unit for control. No mechanical linkage to worry about. Just figure out the mounting system.



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