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D-17 hydraulic fluid ?

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Bill53

12-19-2004 11:34:15




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I've got a D-17, 50HP.I don't know much about tractors except to drive them.The guy I bought it from said it had a combine engine in it. Anyhow I've got a plow on the front of it,and I know it needs fluid in the hydraulic system, but don't know where to look for the filler cap. The lines run from the plow pump to the back of the tractor, to a quick connect coupling below the seat. Sitting on the tractor the filter for the Hydraulics is on the side of the tractor,on the right side. Looks like a car oil filter. Thats another problem, threads are shot that the filter screws on to and it blew the filter off, thats how I lost the fluid. The 2 lines from it seem to go to the transmission. If anyone can tell me where the filler hole is, I'd appreciate it.

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Bill53

12-20-2004 04:56:55




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 Re: D-17 hydraulic fluid ? in reply to Bill53, 12-19-2004 11:34:15  
I want to thank both of you guys for your help.



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Billy johnson

12-20-2004 16:52:12




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 Re: D-17 hydraulic fluid ? in reply to Bill53, 12-20-2004 04:56:55  
Make sure that the filter is the correct one, the one that came off may not be correct.



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DanD.

12-19-2004 11:47:39




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 Re: D-17 hydraulic fluid ? in reply to Bill53, 12-19-2004 11:34:15  
Since you have the hydraulic oil filter, then you have a newer D17 that has the oil for the hydraulics and power director combined into one reservoir. When you"re sitting on the seat, look down at the shifting lever. To the right is a large filler cap that you can simply remove by hand. This is for the transmission only. To the left is another cap that you need a large wrench or an adjustable wrench to loosen and then it turns out. THere is a dipstick on this cap and it has two different oil levels shown on it. One side says full after prolonged standing and the other says full immediately after running. You"ll want to put in enough oil so that right as soon as you check it, the level is somewhere between the two. That will be good. Use a universal trans/hydraulic oil as this oil lubricates the power director and the gear train that runs the power director and the PTO along with being the hydraulic oil. When you push in the foot clutch, the red light labelled power director oil pressure on the lower left corner of the dash should come on because when the foot clutch is pushed in the oil pump for the power director quits turning and thus no oil pressure. THis is normal. If it goes out when you release the clutch, then you know you have enough oil in the system that you won"t do any harm. My father has a Series III D17 with a bucket on it. Of course the large rams leak a little oil and eventually the oil level will fall enough if not checked so that the red light I told you about stays on. Add some oi, and everything is good again for a long time.

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Gatz

12-19-2004 12:19:39




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 Re: D-17 hydraulic fluid ? in reply to DanD., 12-19-2004 11:47:39  
DanD explained things very well....Just a few things to add.
I believe the threads are 3/4" NPT in the base.
Car parts stores should have the short threaded nipple if yours is shot.
Or, if the threads are stripped out of the base, it could be fixed by using a metal epoxy filler and then screwing the short nipple back in, making sure it is straight.
Remove the base completely from tractor if doing the epoxy repair.
It's important to get the base clean & oil-free before applying epoxy. Use something like laquer thinner or alchohol to clean. And let it cure completely b/4 re-installing.

AGCO's recommended oil is called 821. But any oil/hydraulic (HyTran) fluid will work. Farm stores carry it.

Gatz

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