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UC 38 rears

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Willie

12-08-2004 17:50:14




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Hey guys I know its a long shot, but does anyone have any 38 inch wheels from a UC high crop? I believe they may have used the same wheels on WC high crops as well. I'm also looking for front spindles from a 38 UC narrow front. I'd appreciate any leads or info you could give about these items or UC's in general. Thanks, Willie




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wk4036

12-11-2004 04:32:08




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 Re: UC 38 rears in reply to Willie, 12-08-2004 17:50:14  
Willie, The "UC" and "WC" bolt pattern is not the same. The 38" round spokes were used on the early Thomson cane harvesters and are easy to miss because Thomson put a thin steel disc on each side of the wheel to keep the think gumbo mud from building up on the spokes. The 36" round spokes were used on the very early UC's and on the Thomson cane wagons and what ever Thomson built that needed crop clearance. There are three different types of cast center types of wheels and centers. The first center is smooth and slightly curved, the second is flat and has an ear like piece of cast sticking out by each bolt that attaches the wheel to the center and the third and latest has a curved cutout (can't explain it any better)between the bolts that attach the wheel to the center. I bought a "UCD" with a 2-71 Detroit Diesel and it had the wrong early smooth centers but I put a set of 38" round spokes on it so I could get it into 6500# class for pulling, I also have a "UCD" with a 3-53 Detroit that had the very late type of centers that are correct for that period. The wheels and centers that I have are for sale but I guess we need to know what style you're looking for. Where are you located? WK

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Willie

12-14-2004 05:26:37




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 Re: UC 38 rears in reply to wk4036, 12-11-2004 04:32:08  
Hey, thanks for the info. Actually what I have is a regular UC (not high crop) but I was thinking that the 38 would get me more competitive pulling. As of now the tractor has 13.5 28's on it. I think I like the looks of the smooth centers the best, but what do you have? I am in So. IL about 40 miles east of St Louis. Let me know and thanks again, Willie



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wk4036

12-14-2004 18:05:53




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 Re: UC 38 rears in reply to Willie, 12-14-2004 05:26:37  
Willie, The centers I have are heavy cast so I don't think they would work for you, I had to go to the round spokes with my Highcrop to get into 6500#. A friend of mine has a rowcrop UC that has the 38" round spokes on it like my Highcrop and he makes it into 5500#. You need to take a trip down to sugar cane country and locate a set of 38" harvester wheels, and while you're down there you need to pick up a LP manifold to pick up a few extra ponies. wk wk

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Willie

12-14-2004 22:12:53




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 Re: UC 38 rears in reply to wk4036, 12-14-2004 18:05:53  
WK, If you have heavy cast 38's that may be just what I'm looking for. Around here many of the 40 and older antiques are plow pullers, so I would think the extra weight would help, not hurt. I have a 560 that I pull in weight pulls. When you get a chance let me know where you are located and what you would have to get for your 38s. My email is [email protected] if you want to email directly to me. Thanks for your responses, Willie

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ACEd

12-08-2004 18:31:50




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 Re: UC 38 rears in reply to Willie, 12-08-2004 17:50:14  
WD and WD45 High Crops used 38", but WC used 36" - according to parts book the WD used an adapter to match bolt patterns - except my WDHC has regular WD bolt pattern in 36" centers so go figure. I know of some 38" on D17HC or D19HC junker, but more modern design and bolt pattern - but depending on vintage of your UCHC, they may be appropriate - Tompson converted UC to UCHC as late as early 60's. While on the subject, does anyone have any spare 21" fronts - I have OK rims but can't locate tires.

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Fruitfarmer

12-09-2004 13:57:45




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 Re: UC 38 rears in reply to ACEd, 12-08-2004 18:31:50  
Use Model A Ford tires and tubes. They were 21 inch on the 1928 and 1929 cars. Still widely available new and used.



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