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farmerboybill

11-22-2004 19:56:54

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I come on this board every now and again because I have a passing interest in the D17 and the G. I see a respectable number of posts on the D series but not very much at all on the G. Are there not that many G's out there in use or do they never have problems? I have an interest in the G because my Father-in-law has two that he uses in his garden when he's not using his 1050 or 3020. They seem like a nifty little unit.

I'm not complaining, just making an observation.

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irvin5400

11-23-2004 15:38:03

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Re: Not much discussion on the G... in reply to farmerboybill, 11-22-2004 19:56:54

My dad has 5 G"s, 2 complete and 3 in pieces. He farmed for most of his life on one. If you ever have any questions, let me know and I can ask him!

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Robert Harris

11-26-2004 07:11:14

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Re: Not much discussion on the G... in reply to irvin5400, 11-23-2004 15:38:03

irvin5400, ask your father if he has had experience with the the G power driven soy bean seeder ground rig. It is illustrated in the parts manual compilations sold on this site but it is NOT illustrated in the operators manual compilation manual sold on this site.On page 318 of Mr. C.H. Wendel's book,'The Allis Chalmers Story' is mentioned that Allis attempted to promote the G for the soybean farmer. A special catalog devoted to this purpose illustrated a special two-row drill planter for soybeans. I would like to secure a copy or re-print of this 'special catalog'. Any help would be appreciated. Robert Harris (334) 687-8057

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A.Irvin

12-05-2004 12:14:12

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Re: Not much discussion on the G... in reply to Robert Harris, 11-26-2004 07:11:14

Robert, I'll ask my dad, but I've never heard him mention using any planter. They (father and grandfather) used them for cultivating and plowing. He may have a copy of the book in question but it may take time to dig up. My grandfather was a dealer for allis chalmers, had almost every model at one time or another. Dad says they had two G's with loaders used to move cotton seed from our cotton gin. I couldn't imagine using those tiny loaders for anytihing but dad says they worked great. He just bought another G yesterday with factory hydraulics, now he can die happy!

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Farmered

11-23-2004 21:53:03

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Re: Not much discussion on the G... in reply to irvin5400, 11-23-2004 15:38:03

There would be more discussion if there were more questions. They are so straightforward and simple that not too many problems come up. There are plenty of qualified folks on here that can answer your questions.The biggest problem I had in rebuilding several of them was removing the rear axel from the housing for bearing replacement. Don't even think about it unless you have at least a 20 ton press to remove the brake drum. also the bearing retainer is shrunk on and you will need the fire-wrench to R & R that. Ed

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Chuck MI

11-24-2004 04:06:58

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Yeah...that's fun. in reply to Farmered, 11-23-2004 21:53:03

Switched a bearing this summer. Lots of fun. Managed to do it without a press, but wouldn't do it again that way if I could help it.

Chuck

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farmerboybill

11-23-2004 16:28:43

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Re: Not much discussion on the G... in reply to irvin5400, 11-23-2004 15:38:03

One thing I've thought would be nice to have is the cutterbar attachment for the G. I've been told they had one but have never seen one. I don't know if Wally's G is equipped with the belt pulley or not to run it. I always intend to look whenever I'm over there but forget.

Has anyone seen the guy who puts an Isuzu Diesel on them? His site is dieselacg.com Kind of an interesting idea but would it be worth it?

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Farmered

11-23-2004 21:29:39

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Re: Not much discussion on the G... in reply to farmerboybill, 11-23-2004 16:28:43

I have a 5 foot bar mower for a G. It is complete except for the swathboard and I have the hardware for that, just needs the wood. Works with either hand lift or hydraulic but does need the PTO with V belt pulley. Mounting bracket bolts between the two halves of the tractor. I am located in Northern Colorado near I-25 and I-80. I used it several years ago and it works good but no longer have a G. My e-mail is uncovered. Ed

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Chuck MI

11-23-2004 04:31:36

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Re: Not much discussion on the G... in reply to farmerboybill, 11-22-2004 19:56:54

There isn't a huge amount of discussion here, but I believe relative to the amount of total tractors produced by Allis, the G has its share of posts. The problem is that the G is so unique that the posts don't cross over. It's either about the G or isn't applicable. You've also probably noticed that most of the G posts are answered by a lot of the same people.

My neighbor has a G for his market garden, and I help him out mechanically with it and his other equipment in exchange for vegetables. Here's a picture below.

Chuck

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Chuck MI

11-23-2004 04:33:32

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Re: Not much discussion on the G... in reply to Chuck MI, 11-23-2004 04:31:36

Here's some of the implements used on his G.

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Plant Doctor

11-23-2004 05:15:15

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Re: Not much discussion on the G... in reply to Chuck MI, 11-23-2004 04:33:32

Chuck: Regarding the implement picture, what is the implement directly behind the front cultivator? Is it a set of small rotary hoes or a set of meeker harrows?? Is it specifically made for the "G"?

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Anthony

11-23-2004 06:58:49

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Re: Not much discussion on the G... in reply to Plant Doctor, 11-23-2004 05:15:15

Notice that on the basket cultivator the two rows are connected by a chain and sprockets. By having the sprockets of slightly different sizes it causes the baskets to slip on the ground surface, since one row is "pushing" and the other is "pulling". The slipping action uproots tiny weeds, like a tire slipping in loose dirt.

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Chuck MI

11-23-2004 06:38:35

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Buddingh Basket Weeder in reply to Plant Doctor, 11-23-2004 05:15:15

The front most implement is actually a potato hiller. The second is a Buddingh Basket Weeder, made in Dutton, Michigan. I believe they are made for 3 point and other underside toolbar mounts, or else have been converted, but not a G exclusive. The two sets of baskets are ground driven but turn at different speeds and the wires rip along or just below the soil surface. It works great on small weeds that have just germinated. I've adjusted this one for three rows of vegetables, 12" on center.

Chuck

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Dooug Hendrickson

12-28-2004 19:28:42

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Re: Buddingh Basket Weeder etc...... in reply to Chuck MI, 11-23-2004 06:38:35

Is that an independent gang cultivator behind the Buddingh basket weeder? I am thinking about buying one or the other. If you had to make a choice, which would you go with?

Where would you look for either?

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Dick2

11-23-2004 05:22:58

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Re: Not much discussion on the G... in reply to Plant Doctor, 11-23-2004 05:15:15

This one was at the tractor show in Glendale, AZ, about 10 days ago. The G always intruigued me, but was definitely a special purpose tractor. Wendell's History of Allis Chalmers shows a G with a windrower mounted on the front of it. I've been told that none of the windrowers were actually sold.

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