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Questions about WD battery box ???

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MMB

11-15-2004 21:25:43

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My friend has a WD Allis and I have the remnants of what once was the battery box and I am going to fabricate him a new one. What is left is missing the top as well as the left side panel (plus a lot rusted out of what's there) so I have a few questions and would appreciate if somebody could help me out with them.

1. Is the top and left side panel two separate pieces or one bent piece for both panels?
2. What is left of this box measures a height of about 8 3/4" (inside) from the bottom to the top edge of the box. This is about the same measurement of a standard 6-volt battery from bottom to the top of the posts. Does the top cover not make contact with the posts at this measurement? If so, what is used to prevent shorting inside that lid?
3. Is the top a simple flat piece of sheet steel or does it have bend (downwards) side flanges that overlap the outside of the box? If there are flanges, how much of a flange (measurement) is there on that lid?
4. If the left side panel is a separate piece from the top, how is it held onto the box so as to be removeable (I cannot tell from what is left on this box). I have four box-mounted studs still there to anchor the top down.

Thanks for your help.

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Jrry

11-16-2004 11:56:45

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Re: Questions about WD battery box ??? in reply to MMB, 11-15-2004 21:25:43

I would reconsider making the side plate attached to the rest of the box because it may be difficult to get the battery in the box. My WD 45 has the side piece missing and I slide the battery in right where the side piece would be. Mine also has the ignition switch and amp guage attached to the back of the box.

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Oliver

11-17-2004 06:57:16

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Re: Questions about WD battery box ??? in reply to Jrry, 11-16-2004 11:56:45

Ingenious use of carpentry skills on that designer seat, reminds me of one I utilized at a football game recently.

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Jrry

11-17-2004 07:13:44

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Re: Questions about WD battery box ??? in reply to Oliver, 11-17-2004 06:57:16

The seat was on the tractor when I bought it. I'm not that good of a carpenter. LOL

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Sid

11-15-2004 22:33:15

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Re: Questions about WD battery box ??? in reply to MMB, 11-15-2004 21:25:43

1. Two separate pieces. (I suppose it could be made one piece but original is two.) 2.It is a close fit. There is an insulator that goes in there. I have seen them made with pieces of old truck innertube. 3. Top piece has flanges Not sure about the measurement(1/4-1/2?). It has notches to clear battery cables. 4. It slides inside flange on bottom of box. It has flanges on the ends to go outside the corners of box and the flange on top piece fits over top edge. If I did not make this clear enough you will find a detailed picture in the parts section of the owners manual.

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MMB

11-16-2004 05:47:25

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Re: Questions about WD battery box ??? in reply to Sid, 11-15-2004 22:33:15

Your description is perfect and I think I can visualize it pretty well. I think I will make the top and side piece one panel as you mentioned. One more question, it sounds like the downward force of the top (when anchored is what holds the battery down into the box, is that right? In other words, no hold down straps or brackets. Thanks again, I'll get going on this thing today.

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Scott-IA

11-16-2004 09:09:57

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Re: Questions about WD battery box ??? in reply to MMB, 11-16-2004 05:47:25

The top is not flat. It has all edges bent down to surround the sides, which holds the left side on. You can buy new boxes for these fairly readily. I think I've even seen a couple photos of one on this site.

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MMB

11-16-2004 11:20:28

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Re: Questions about WD battery box ??? in reply to Scott-IA, 11-16-2004 09:09:57

I realize that there are flanges bent down along the sides but what I meant was that it must be the flat part of the top lid that actually holds the battery down in place (by the insolated layer inside the lid pressing down on the top of the posts) and keeps it from moving in the box. Is that right? One more question is this .... how is the box held down at the rear? This one had the front bent bracket but the back part of the box bottom was gone by rusting. Thanks.

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Sid

11-16-2004 11:36:14

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Re: Questions about WD battery box ??? in reply to MMB, 11-16-2004 11:20:28

I forgot to mention that there is an isulator in bottom of box as well.No straps or brackets to hold battery down. The bottom of box is flat other than the bracket you mentioned. Acually I think the bottom is a solid bent piece. It extends past the back of the battery box and anchor in two holes tapped out just in front of the gear shift.

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