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guy seate

11-05-2004 13:28:47

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Anybody got the part #'s for the oil seals for an A-c B model? I'd like to have them all, but, take whatever ya got. I need to know which one for the belt pulley shaft.

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TexMac

11-05-2004 22:40:37

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Re: oil seals in reply to guy seate, 11-05-2004 13:28:47

Belt pulley seal (leather for grooved shaft) is #7245. PTO takes rubber lipped #40162S. (Use 2 facing each other.) I think those are National numbers, but a good industrial bearing man behind the counter can confirm for you. Recently did my '39B, so they were still available a few months ago. My original seals came from the factory and had no numbers on them. Had to mic everyting, but did not record measurements. Sorry.

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Rod (NH)

11-05-2004 15:02:37

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Re: oil seals in reply to guy seate, 11-05-2004 13:28:47

Hi Guy,

Perhaps I can help on the belt pulley seal. On my '42B, I used a Chicago Rawhide rubber lip seal, #13865. Because my pulley shaft had the oil return groove in it, I also had to use a "speedi sleeve". See my installation here. The same seal should work fine on a shaft that does not have the groove. I understand that the original leather seal used with the grooved shafts is still available as National #450444 but I have not actually confirmed it. If you have a grooved shaft, that would be an option to avoid the extra expense of the "speedi-sleeve". National and Chicago Rawhide products should be available at most any outlet that deals in power transmission equipment.

Rod

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Guy Seate

11-05-2004 17:36:30

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Re: oil seals in reply to Rod (NH), 11-05-2004 15:02:37

Many thanks for the wonderful replys; most helpfull. Guy

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Tom Dooley

11-05-2004 15:47:33

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Re: oil seals in reply to Rod (NH), 11-05-2004 15:02:37

I have to replace the same seal on a 1941 AC C next summer. Would you have any idea if the plan of action would be the same as for the AC B ?
Thanks Tom

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Rod (NH)

11-05-2004 17:01:41

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Re: oil seals in reply to Tom Dooley, 11-05-2004 15:47:33

Hi Tom,

Yup, it should be. My B/C parts book indicates that the same belt pulley seal is used on both the B and C.

For reference, the original AC part numbers are 207993 for a groved shaft and 225450 for a shaft w/o groove. My guess is your '41C would have the grooved shaft like my '42B, unless it has a later version of the PTO/belt pulley assembly installed on it.

Rod

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Tom Dooley

11-05-2004 20:35:04

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Re: oil seals in reply to Rod (NH), 11-05-2004 17:01:41

Rod; As usual I will copy your information and use it as soon as I get back home in April.Thanks for the info and the answer. Tom

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