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Allis B Carburator - Please Help

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Doug - Georgia

11-01-2004 15:52:25




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Everytime I think I know something about the B it humbles me again. I have a 49B that I paid $300. for about 7 years ago. It had not run for over 10 years but had been under cover. Four hours later I had it running and I was very proud (should have known better). For the most part it has run well but when it wants to act up it can be real aggravating.

I am trying to Identify its carb. I do not believe it is original equipment. It is a Zenith and has an alumninum disk attached to the top. the numbers on this are 224640 over 10903. A 1 and a B are stamped on the body on the outside near the choke lever, a B is stamped on one side of the throat that attaches to the manifold and a 2 on the other side. There is a single adjustment screw near the fuel intake. On the bottom of the bowl on the side near the engine is what may be a cleanout drain. There is also a single bolt on the front side at the bottom of the bowl. I am considering rebuilding or buying a rebuilt carb. If I rebuild I need to know what carb it is. If I decide to by already rebuilt what card do I need. I have the an Allis Shop Manualbut it is not clear as to whether the carburetors listed are interchangeable.

The tractor runs well for a 10-15 seconds and at idle then stops. Acts like it just runs out of fuel. Tank is clean, gas is new and flows freely through fuel line to carb (I have an intank fuel line extension to get above the crud line). Timing seems right when it is running and I have tried all of the inexpensive cures I can think of (plugs, plug wires, distributer cap, points, condenser, coil).

Some think I am an old man now, but this thing is really beginning to age me.

What carb should be on this tractor?? If anyone has any ideas as to why it isn't running, all help will be appreciated.

Doug

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Doug - Georgia

11-06-2004 18:07:08




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 Re: Allis B Carburator - Please Help in reply to Doug - Georgia, 11-01-2004 15:52:25  
Thanks to everyone for your assistance. Am still working on it.
Doug



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Steve in N.J.

11-01-2004 17:56:41




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 Re: Allis B Carburator - Please Help in reply to Doug - Georgia, 11-01-2004 15:52:25  
Doug,
We rebuild quite a few Zenith and Marvel carbs for our tractor customer's if you decide to look for a rebuilder. We also have the carb kits in stock, if you want to rebuild it yourself. Most important on these cast iron carbs is getting the enrichment passage(s) clean of rust and gunk. I glassbead all our carbs we do in and out to make sure all rust and gunk are gone and the passages are open like new again, as well as the whole carb. Drop us a line if interested, be more than happy to help you out...
Steve/B&B Custom Circuits
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Norm in Alabama

11-02-2004 06:02:43




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 Re: Allis B Carburator - Please Help in reply to Steve in N.J., 11-01-2004 17:56:41  
What is your turn around time? I have a Allis "C" carb I need rebuilt. My email is uncovered.



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Steve in N.J.

11-03-2004 19:29:01




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 Re: Allis B Carburator - Please Help in reply to Norm in Alabama, 11-02-2004 06:02:43  
Norm,
Usually about a week after we recieve the carb. It get's disassembled, accessed, we shoot you the total price of the rebuild which includes shipping back to you before we do anything. If we get the okay from you to proceed, we do our thing, and when payment arrives, it's shipped.
Steve/B&B Custom Circuits



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Jim Danforth

11-02-2004 08:55:23




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 Re: Allis B Carburator - Please Help in reply to Norm in Alabama, 11-02-2004 06:02:43  
Norm, Check your email.



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Dick L

11-01-2004 17:11:30




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 Re: Allis B Carburator - Please Help in reply to Doug - Georgia, 11-01-2004 15:52:25  
Here is a link to a carb drawing that will show you where and what you are looking at.



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CH

11-01-2004 16:17:08




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 Re: Allis B Carburator - Please Help in reply to Doug - Georgia, 11-01-2004 15:52:25  
224640 is the right carb number. Sounds like the float valve might be sticking. You can buy a rebuild kit at NAPA for under $30. The kit comes with instructions and float level specs.



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tinker

11-02-2004 00:55:41




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 Re: Allis B Carburator - Please Help in reply to CH, 11-01-2004 16:17:08  
I worked on these things for 20 years or so. Quick check - when the motor starts to die - open the drain valve on the carb. If you get fuel there while the motor quits anyway, it is something other than fuel. If there is no fuel, then most likely the float valve or the float itself is the problem. Valve assembly and a couple of gaskets should fix. Most other parts never need changed unless maybe packing on the throttle shaft.

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