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Critical side slope angle,D14

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Terry Neudorf

10-27-2004 12:37:36




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I have an AC D 14 tractor. I plan to mow my road ditch with a rough cut rotary mower. I've watched the county tractor mow my ditches on what seems to be a dangerous side slope and not tip over. Being my tractor has such a high profile, what is the critical angle I can drive on and still be safe from tipping. It has the wide front wheels on it.

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RickL

10-28-2004 06:41:57




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 Re: Critical side slope angle,D14 in reply to Terry Neudorf, 10-27-2004 12:37:36  
Is it worth your life. Have had 6 farmers killed this past year locally because they mowed the road banks. Is it really worth that. Ther are other safer ways.



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Tom Yaz

10-28-2004 05:28:48




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 Re: Critical side slope angle,D14 in reply to Terry Neudorf, 10-27-2004 12:37:36  
If possible Avoid the issue altogether. Use Round up and extend the boom over the ditch and spray away. Works for me.



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wolfy

10-27-2004 20:21:23




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 Re: Critical side slope angle,D14 in reply to Terry Neudorf, 10-27-2004 12:37:36  
Spin the wheels all the way out. Have tires aired up so lower tire doesn't mash. Calcium fill is low center of gravity weight. Watch wheel path-both upper & lower- like a hawk. If upper wheel raises over a rock, you're in trouble; likewise if lower wheel drops in low spot...If sitting in seat you look straight down & see lower tires sidewall directly under you, it's too steep. Your Allis should crawl off the hill before it will upset. 've been on awfly steep places with wide front 45(calcium & weights) and the tractor is smarter than I am. It knows when to crawl off the hill.

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BushogPapa

10-27-2004 18:41:29




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 Re: Critical side slope angle,D14 in reply to Terry Neudorf, 10-27-2004 12:37:36  
Have your rear tires set as wida as you can, and have wheel weights, or loaded rear tires...that makes most of the difference... I will mow a 30 degree slope..across the slope, but I have good air pressure in my loaded tires, and set a little wide on my WD-45 nf.... but I KNOW there are NO holes on that slope...!!! I would call that about a 1 in 3 slope or there about..30 degrees out of 90....



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Dick L

10-27-2004 12:47:20




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 Re: Critical side slope angle,D14 in reply to Terry Neudorf, 10-27-2004 12:37:36  
If they can mow it you probly can but if you don"t have the experience and have to ask you probly also should not mow it. You need to know by the feel when to quick turn down hill when mowing real steep banks that are close to the limits of the tractor. If you have experience you can still get into problems real quick, without experience the problem can turn into a disaster before you know to react.

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Terry Neudorf

10-27-2004 13:26:28




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 Re: Critical side slope angle,D14 in reply to Dick L, 10-27-2004 12:47:20  
I realize there is not a hard and fast answer. I'm guessing the side slopes are around 2:1, that translates into approx. 25 degrees. I guess I'll just be very over cautious cause I don't want to end up under a tractor.
I thought somebody out there would have made an incline meter, wouldn't be hard, a weighted rod with some degrees marked on a plate.



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Jim Danforth

10-27-2004 14:15:53




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 Re: Critical side slope angle,D14 in reply to Terry Neudorf, 10-27-2004 13:26:28  
TYes, and incline meter is available.
JImD



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Dick L

10-27-2004 14:33:08




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 Re: Critical side slope angle,D14 in reply to Jim Danforth, 10-27-2004 14:15:53  
I would not want to be running on the edge with my trust in a meter as the meter will not show the pot holes and other deep grooves hidden in tall grass along banks. They would be a good gage but limited at best. Just keep caution in mind at all times while on steep banks. These kinds of things have to be done, and are done every day somewhere, and they can be done safely with caution in mind at all times. Feer is your best friend, use it wisely.

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Dick L

10-27-2004 13:40:03




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 Re: Critical side slope angle,D14 in reply to Terry Neudorf, 10-27-2004 13:26:28  
2:1 are not all that bad. When I mowed roadsides on the Ohio Turn Pike back in 1956 I used a 8 N Dorf pulling golf course type real mowers. We had some off bread low tractors that were wide to mow the 3:1"s They would slide sideways down the slope when you would lose traction. They never tipped over but still would make your belly feel funny inside.
Mow eight hours one way on a side hill and the boss would get you and take you back to the barn. I was hard to sit strieght up in the truck.

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Texas Denny

10-27-2004 13:19:37




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 Re: Critical side slope angle,D14 in reply to Dick L, 10-27-2004 12:47:20  
Good advice. You can improve your chances by putting the wheels all the way out. It is a dangerous business that can't be learned anyway other than experience.



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