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AC WD oil pan gasket follow up queations

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10-25-2004 15:41:52

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This is the advice I used on my 45. It worked perfectly. I received this when I asked the same question. I think the clips are very important. Get your pan gasket from AGCO and you will get high quality gaskets plus the important clips to hold the ends.The manual stresses the importance of building up the corners of the pan where the sides meet the ends with solder to maintain that square corner so I did that to mine. I use a very thin line of #2 Permatex under the end pieces and hold them with the clips. The ends should be sticking up 1/2" or so past the rail. Outside of the end pieces gets a 1/4" bead of #2 then I stick the sides with a gasket cement (not sealer) The ends of the side pieces go over top of the end gaskets. Nothing goes between the gaskets and block except for a small bead of #2 at the corners where the sides meet the ends. I have had zero leaks so far. A place that gets over looked is the rear main cap. The higher quality overhaul gasket sets contain a small gasket that goes underneath the side of the rear main cap, if nothing is there oil can get between the cap and block amd out the rear and a pretty good leak.

Thanks for the help. I have a couple of follow up questions if you don't mind. Do the clips stay in place after everything is bolted up tight? Do they come off at some point and if so when and how. When you say that the Outside of the end pieces get 1/4" of #2 is that the outside of the 1/2" that is sticking up past the rail or the entire lenght of the cork seal that goes up agains the block? When you stick the sides with cement, I assume fromm what you say later that you stick them to the pan and not the block? I do not understand what you mean when you say that the ends of the side pieces go over top of the end gaskets. I understand that the end gaskets are the thick cork seals that are held in place with the clips, but don't know what you mean by the ends of the side rail gaskets go over top of these. Could you please explain further? Do you have a phone # for AGCO? Can you give me a brand name of a gasket cement so I get the right stuff. Thanks a million for you time and advice.

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10-25-2004 17:34:37

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 Re: AC WD oil pan gasket follow up queations in reply to Noah, 10-25-2004 15:41:52  
Noah, I believe that I originaly posted that advise, if not it is good advise none the less. The clips stay in place. You put the end peices in the pan first then stick the sides. The ends side gaskets will be up off the pan at each end because of the end pieces sticking up and the need for them to be over the ends of the end pieces, not butted up to them. Where the side gaskets are up off the pan rail at the juction of the end pieces is where you put the 1/4" bead of #2, under the side gaskets and outside of the end pieces. Then on the engine block you will need another short 1/4" bead at the junction of the rear main cap and pan rail along with the timing cover/pan rail junction. Antoher way to put it is you need a small bead of #2 on both sides of the gaskets at the junction of the end pices and sides. The gasket cement is sold by that name at NAPA or Car Quest. Common contact cement is the same and availible at any hardware. AGCO has dealers all over the country and there is a dealer locator on there website, just do a search ofr AGCO. If you have none nearby Sandy Lake Implement in Sandy Lake Pa. is a good bunch of people who now A-C and are glad to ship orders anywhere.

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10-27-2004 08:33:03

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 Re: AC WD oil pan gasket follow up queations in reply to Butch(OH), 10-25-2004 17:34:37  
Thanks for the help. After trying it the first time and failing, I thought I would just have to trailer it to the shop (three hour trip in this country) and pay the piper to get it done. I think with your advice, I will give it a go on my own again. After I get all the parts, is there a way I can reach you directly if I have questions??? If not, I will just post another note and hope you see it. Sounds like you look at the site often so I understand if you do not want to give me a direct contact. I really appreciate the help. I don't live in "tractor country" and finding local help is difficult so I really appreciate the assistance.

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