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D-17 Hi/Low shafter

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old

10-10-2004 18:04:42




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When its in the middle position should the tractor still move?? If not what might be wrong with it?? Thanks




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gatz

10-11-2004 11:30:24




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 Re: D-17 Hi/Low shafter in reply to old, 10-10-2004 18:04:42  
That's considered "normal" as Sid & JMS have said.
The neutral position is how the tractor & implement can be slowed or brought to a stop, while the PTO is still running. Because both the direct and underdrive clutches are turning the same direction, the cold oil tends to keep them turning.
One thing to look at is the detent postition for neutral. The slot for the neutral position should not be worn excessively. If it is, it will allow the lever to move forward more than it should and cause the clutches to engage a little, thus moving the tractor. (the lever drifting to the rear is usually not a concern) Some adjustments may be in order.
Cannot stress enough what JMS has said, TAKE TRACTOR OUT OF GEAR B/4 DISMOUNTING.

Gatz

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JMS/MN

10-11-2004 14:50:47




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 Re: D-17 Hi/Low shafter in reply to gatz, 10-11-2004 11:30:24  
I believe there is an adjustment on a short piece of flat steel with the notch in it- it holds the PD in neutral. OK- time for honesty now- years ago, in my fourth decade, I added a step below the tractor platform, on each side, and the one on the right was sometimes used to step up on the tractor while picking rocks with a wagon behind, having left the PD in neutral when the wagon was loaded enough that the tractor would not move by itself. One youngster would pick on the left side of the wagon, and with no one else to help, I would pick on the right. If a school day,with no help, I could mount either side, although that was seldom. Generally did the tillage alone, and had help after school for such jobs. After buying a good dependable skidloader, I would pick rock with it during the day and dump on each end of the field; evening job for mrs and daughter was to run around with the SL and rock wagon and pick up the piles, while I milked cows. No hand work for them, and they could clean up an 80 or 160 during milking.

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Sid

10-10-2004 18:29:19




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 Re: D-17 Hi/Low shafter in reply to old, 10-10-2004 18:04:42  
A lot of them will creep if transmission is in gear. It is probably not as bad when warmed up. I have a WD and it sometimes will creep when transmission is cold. My 170 will do the same thing as you are talking about when transmission is cold also. I understand this is common.



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JMS/MN

10-10-2004 18:25:01




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 Re: D-17 Hi/Low shafter in reply to old, 10-10-2004 18:04:42  
It is not unusual for the tractor to move- especially when the oil is cold. Light touch on the brake should stop it. Do not get off the tractor without taking the transmission out of gear. Was not designed for that.



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