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HEY, HOW ABOUT THAT WD/WD45 WEIGHT QUESTION?

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Glenn F.

10-06-2004 18:53:19




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No one answered yet. Thanks, Glenn F.




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dan wc n e wyo

10-07-2004 17:47:27




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 Re: HEY, HOW ABOUT THAT WD/WD45 WEIGHT QUESTION? in reply to Glenn F., 10-06-2004 18:53:19  
Hi Glenn, You might check over on Tractor Talk under a thread about tire ballast, gallons and amount of cal. chloride, and weight of same . Looking on the chart, if using 6:50x16 fronttires and 14:9x28 rear tires, the weight would be almost 1000# extra. I believe it was common practice to load both front and rear tires on WD-45 tractors used in heavy load areas, (plowing, discing, or other deep tillage. Also consider wheel weights of different weights for front and rear including stack weights up to 5 high on the front. There is a picture in one of my books showing Nebnraska Tests of WD-45 with 5 or 6 rear weights on each side. Just a few things that could add weight to the particular tractor listed. HTH Good luck. dan wc n.e.wyo.

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Nebraska Test results

10-07-2004 20:58:04




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 Re: HEY, HOW ABOUT THAT WD/WD45 WEIGHT QUESTION? in reply to dan wc n e wyo, 10-07-2004 17:47:27  
Nebraska Tractor Test Results
TEST NO. 499
Allis-Chalmers Mfg. Co., Milwaukee, Wis.
DATE TESTED: July 29 to August 10, 1953

With a 226 CID, the WD45 was rated at 1400 rpm and achieved a maximum engine torque of 287.9 foot-pounds at 867 rpm. This tractor was equipped with a four-cylinder I-head engine having a 4x4-1/2 inch bore and stroke. Over 42-1/2 hours of operating time, no repairs or adjustments were noted. Standard tire equipment included 13-28 rear and 5.50-16 inch front rubber. Advertised speeds of 2-1/2, 3-3/4, 5 and 11-1/4 mph were provided - third gear was used for Test H. The bare tractor weighed 3,955 pounds, with 1,900 pounds of weight being added to each rear wheel during Tests F, G and H. Test H produced a fuel economy of 10.64 horsepower hours per gallon of gasoline. This ten-hour run was made with an output of 30.18 drawbar horsepower, a pull of 2,250 pounds at 5.03 mph, and slippage of 4.86%. Test G yielded a low-gear maximum pull of 5,441 pounds at 2.11 mph. Under a Test D rated belt load of 38.61 horsepower the WD45 achieved a fuel economy of 11.94 horsepower hours per gallon of fuel - this figure climbed to 12.34 under a Test C operating maximum load of 40.47 horsepower.

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wdTom

10-07-2004 17:45:19




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 Re: HEY, HOW ABOUT THAT WD/WD45 WEIGHT QUESTION? in reply to Glenn F., 10-06-2004 18:53:19  
As far as weight goes they would be just about the same. Tire size would make a little difference. It would come down to whether or not the tires are loaded. These tractors, can be made to weigh less than 3500#, they can pull in the under 3500 antique class around here. However they may not have PTOs, belt pully, fenders, that sort of thing. A more realistic weight I think would be around 4000 for a ready to work tractor, and maybe 1200 more for loaded tires. These figures are close, guesses, I haven't actually weighed a tractor.

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Bitt

10-07-2004 14:55:34




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 Re: HEY, HOW ABOUT THAT WD/WD45 WEIGHT QUESTION? in reply to Glenn F., 10-06-2004 18:53:19  
WD weighs 3388
WD-45 weighs 4465

According to

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Glenn F.

10-07-2004 18:26:55




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 Re: HEY, HOW ABOUT THAT WD/WD45 WEIGHT QUESTION? in reply to Bitt, 10-07-2004 14:55:34  
As per this thread, the 45 must have fluid/weights...? Glenn F.



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JMS/MN

10-07-2004 14:07:39




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 Re: HEY, HOW ABOUT THAT WD/WD45 WEIGHT QUESTION? in reply to Glenn F., 10-06-2004 18:53:19  
I don't know the source of the info that says the WD45 is a thousand pounds heavier, (which I don't believe), but one issue would be tire size and ballast capacity. Standard tires and oversize tires on the WD45 were both one inch wider than comparable ones on the WD. The live clutch is a non-issue. They were basically, if not exactly, the same. Engine would gain a few pounds. I remember a Succesful Farming magazine article from the 1950s that questioned how a 4400 lb tractor could pull a four bottom plow. It featured the WD45 with the Traction Booster system. Now, weight transfer systems are the norm.

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Keith-OR

10-06-2004 20:00:41




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 Re: HEY, HOW ABOUT THAT WD/WD45 WEIGHT QUESTION? in reply to Glenn F., 10-06-2004 18:53:19  
this might give some og the answers you are looking for....HTH

http://www.ytmag.com/profiles/wd45prof.htm



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Sid

10-06-2004 19:33:03




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 Re: HEY, HOW ABOUT THAT WD/WD45 WEIGHT QUESTION? in reply to Glenn F., 10-06-2004 18:53:19  
Maybe no one knows. I am sure I don't



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