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Looking for a bigger tractor

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Jason in MO

08-26-2004 11:02:50




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I have decided that I need a bigger tractor. Currently I have a farmall 140 and a satoh 650G. I would like to move up to something in the neighborhood of a D15. My problem is I have never had any dealings with AC tractors. Have about 30 acres to play with. I will mostly be mowing but will also do a little planting for the wildlife. 3 point is a must live take off would be nice. What can anybody suggest?

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mike fenner

08-27-2004 20:46:08




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 Re: Looking for a bigger tractor in reply to Jason in MO, 08-26-2004 11:02:50  
Would you be interested in a decent WD. I have to many tractors, need to downsize my collection. The WD was a very popular tractor in its day and is still used widely, parts are cheap and it is real easy to work on. The one I have is in decent shape but doesn't have 3 point, snap coupler was standard. The 3 point conversion is maybe $250- 300.



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John (MO)

08-27-2004 13:34:26




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 Re: Looking for a bigger tractor in reply to Jason in MO, 08-26-2004 11:02:50  
The Allis D-15 has 35 hp at the draw bar. It falls right between the D-14 with 31 and the D-17 with 48. All those are ratings for gas tractors. The D-14 and D-15 use the same 140 cubic inch engine, it runs 1650 rpm in the D-14 and 2000 rpm in the D-15. The D-14 was made from 1957 into 1960 and the D-15 followed in 1960 through 1968. Both are fine tractors when in good condition. The D-15 was made in a diesel model while the D-14 was not. These tractors have independent PTO and hydraulics through a hand clutch called a Power Director. The power director has a high, neutral and low position. The foot clutch stops all power to the wheels the PTO and the hydraulics. Allis chalmers used a propriority hitch system call a snap coupler. It is some what like a 3 point hitch system that is turned over. The snap coupler implements have their own drawbar which slips into a SNAP COUPLER under the tractor and then the 2 lift arms are above that and slightly higher than on a standard 3 point hitch system. The snap coupler system is very good on it's own and there is lots of older snap coupler equipment available. It is no trick at all to convert a snap coupler tractor to use standard 3 point equipment. Manufactured conversions are readly available and run about $300. They attach to the Allis drawbar very easily and you can switch from 3 point implements to snap coupler and back in just a few minutes. The most comon problem that one has to watch for in these tractors is transmissions that jump out of gear when a load is taken off them. The problem is created by people trying to force the transmission in gear while the tractor is moving. The gears are not synchronized like in a modern automobile and can not be shifted well on the go. Years of grinding gears can cause tractors to want to jump out of gear. 3rd gear is the most comon one to have the problem if it exists. To test this, first make sure the tractor brakes work, if they do, take the tractor to a hill and start down it in 3rd gear at about half throttle. Let the tractor build up a little speed then close the throttle quickly. If the engine breaking does not cause the transmission to jump out of gear, you most likely won't have any problems. If it does jump out of gear the fix can be fairly expensive and you'll need to check the repair costs BEFORE buying the tractor. Sometimes the problem can be slight and not hardly necessary to worry about, but sometime it can be so bad a tractor won't hardly stay in any gear, doing anything. Of course these tractors are going to be at least 40 years old so they can have all sorts of wear you'll need to watch for but the transmission is the big thing that can hide pretty well. Also check the rear tires, new 26" tires can be expensive although there are lots of 26" tires used on combines that can sometimes be bought real cheap. 28" tires are a lot cheaper when buying new ones. There are a lot of Allis 28" rims around that can replace the 26" ones for people who want to go that route. Good luck.

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RickL

08-26-2004 15:11:02




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 Re: Looking for a bigger tractor in reply to Jason in MO, 08-26-2004 11:02:50  
I have a 1855 Oliver wanting to sell if that would help



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