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TAD

08-11-2004 21:07:27




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Within the last week or so, I have discovered my generator is not original. It's originally off of an early 1950's GM vehicle. From what I have been able to find out it puts out about 40 amps, when its working. I do need to rebuild it. My questions are, do I need to worry about the higher amperage this generator is supposed to generate? Can I use the standard cut-out relay? If I use a voltage regulator do I need one rated for 40 amps? If I use a voltage regulator, how do I hook it up? All of this automotive type electrics is new to me. Thanks for any advice.
Tim

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Bob M

08-12-2004 10:43:21




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 Re: Wrong Generator in reply to TAD, 08-11-2004 21:07:27  
TAD - Responding to your questions...

I need to worry about the higher amperage this generator is supposed to generate? Probably not � the stock tractor wiring should handle the higher current OK.

Can I use the standard cut-out relay? No! A cutout is designed for low output, self-limiting (3-brush) generator systems. It provides no overcurrent protection for the generator - could result in burning out your higher output generator under certain charging conditions.

If I use a voltage regulator do I need one rated for 40 amps? Absolutely! Generator and regulator must be matched to each other. Use the wrong regulator and the system won�t charge properly, and you risk overloading/burning out the generator. The "old guy" at any good starter/alternator shop should be able to set you up with the right regulator.

If I use a voltage regulator, how do I hook it up? Wire the regulator to the generator per below:
Regulator BAT terminal > ammeter
Regulator GEN terminal > generator A (or ARM) terminal
Regulator FLD terminal > regulator F (or FLD) terminal
Be sure the regulator base is solidly grounded � it won�t work right if it is not!

Do I need to change my 20-0-20 ammeter? Probably not. The needle may peg when the battery is charging hard but it won�t hurt the ammeter. (I have a 63 amp alternator on a Farmall. It�s been pegging the original 20-0-20 ammeter HARD on every startup for nearly 25 years - the ammeter continues to work fine)

Hope this helps!

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TAD

08-12-2004 20:52:15




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 Re: Wrong Generator in reply to Bob M, 08-12-2004 10:43:21  
Thank you very much, Bob!
Tim



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TAD

08-11-2004 21:10:44




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 Re: Wrong Generator in reply to TAD, 08-11-2004 21:07:27  
One question I forgot. Do I need to change my 20-0-20 Ammeter to a 40-0-40?



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