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Gleaner ? D-17 Engine

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Bob in Wi

07-23-2004 20:31:56




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I have a gleaner motor that is complete from radiator to the pullies in the back including a hood. How do I identify what one it is? And I've been told some had more power than there tractor siblings. Whats the scoop.




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DanD.

07-23-2004 21:03:13




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 Re: Gleaner ? D-17 Engine in reply to Bob in Wi, 07-23-2004 20:31:56  
Is it a 4 cylinder engine? If so, you should find an engine serial number stamped in a flat spot on the block right by the carburetor. I bet it will start with a "17". It may also be a 6 cylinder gas(either AC or Chevrolet) or else a 4 or 6 cylinder diesel. Need a little more info.



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DanD.

07-23-2004 21:04:53




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 Re: Re: Gleaner ? D-17 Engine in reply to DanD., 07-23-2004 21:03:13  
I see in the title you specifically mention D17 engine, so I assume 4 cylinder gas? The last letter of the serial number is probably either an "M" or a "Z", correct?



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Bob in Wi

07-24-2004 13:10:46




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 Re: Re: Re: Gleaner ? D-17 Engine in reply to DanD., 07-23-2004 21:04:53  
It is a 4 cylinder and I'll look to see the codes. It looks alot like my D-17 engine. I bought it as a gleaner / D-17 engine. Also was there a power diference in the Gleaners or was it B.S. I'd belive that the tractor would lose some at the drawbar where the gleaner is of the crank. I'll check in the next day or so it's at a friends house. Thank you.



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JMS/MN

07-24-2004 16:41:19




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Gleaner ? D-17 Engine in reply to Bob in Wi, 07-24-2004 13:10:46  
You're lucky to find one of those- same block, but some differences- I think regarding a fuel pump, etc. that you need for the combine engine. Great substitute for the D17 engine- also fits earlier AC tractors, down to the WC. They were used on the Gleaner Model E combine.



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Bob in Wi

07-25-2004 07:32:48




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Gleaner ? D-17 Engine in reply to JMS/MN, 07-24-2004 16:41:19  
I went out and found the numbers. The combine motor is 17 - 62431 - z . There is another motor that my friend has 17 - 12539 - m . Is the five digit number a serial number? I did'nt get the one of my D-17 because its at a shop getting 4 new tires. I'm shur its a series I because the oil filter is the part number for series I. I can't go by the torque housing # because someone had switched it for a Series III one. The tractor has all the series I or II ear tags. Lights on hood wd style breaks. Did the motors get stamped with the serial # as well. And Did a Gleaner E motor have more power?

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DanD.

07-25-2004 13:34:19




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Gleaner ? D-17 Engine in reply to Bob in Wi, 07-25-2004 07:32:48  
The combine motor will probably be rated more horsepower because it would be measured at the flywheel, not the PTO or drawbar like a tractor. On the model 17 engine, the "M" suffix indicates a 7.2:1 compression ratio, the "Z" indicates an 8.0:1 ratio and a "V" indicates an 8.2:1 compression ratio. Of course you can change compression ratios by putting in different pistons (that's how they did it at the factory). The "M" was used in the D17 tractor, the "Z" was used in the 170 and the "V" was used in the 175. Also, the 170's had a larger carburetor than the D17 and the 175 was larger yet. I don't know the size of the carburetor on the combine engine. So putting this engine in your D17 will probably get you a little more horsepower. You need to make a cover for the fuel pump hole, you need to change the governor from the tractor engine to the combine engine because the governor on the combine engine has no provision to attach the tractor's control linkage, and you'll need to change the flywheel. I've never done this swap, but I don't think it's too difficult. I know where there is a WD45 with the Gleaner E engine in it.

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earl haman

08-20-2004 17:52:40




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Gleaner ? D-17 Engine in reply to DanD., 07-25-2004 13:34:19  
I have a wc with a gleaner engine in it.serial#17-40985-v.would this be a good puller?



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Bob in Wi

07-25-2004 17:13:28




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Gleaner ? D-17 Engine in reply to DanD., 07-25-2004 13:34:19  
Thanks I learned alot. I'm not sure when I'll use the gleaner motor but at least I know what i've got.



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