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Allis Model C - Pinnion Shaft Inner Lip Seal

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Wilson

07-05-2004 19:43:08




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Does anyone know what direction to install the inner lip seal on the final drive pinnion shaft? This is the one behind the brake drum. Should it be installed to seal or relieve pressure?

I know the axel seal is installed to seal pressure, so I would think the pinnion seal needs to relieve pressure.

Forgot to take notice when I did the tear-down.




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Wilson

07-05-2004 21:03:13




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 Re: Allis Model C - Pinnion Shaft Inner Lip Seal in reply to Wilson, 07-05-2004 19:43:08  
Just found the old seals. Steve is correct, both seals are installed to seal (lips in).

This is not always true in every case. There are times when you want a lip seal to relive pressure. For example, when you have a gearbox that gets very hot if there isn't at least one seal that relieves pressure the lips can blow out or the pressure increase can cause the lips to wear prematurely since the seal self-energizes under pressure.

Elastomeric seals would be more prone to this since they seal better. On the other hand leather seals probably aren't gas tight.

Bottomline, the final drive probably doesn't get hot during operation so there is no need to worry about traping pressure. It's more desirable to have a drip/leak free final drive.

Thanks again, Steve

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steve

07-05-2004 20:13:15




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 Re: Allis Model C - Pinnion Shaft Inner Lip Seal in reply to Wilson, 07-05-2004 19:43:08  
all seals go in with the lip and spring toward the oil. the dry side sees the steel face. the pinion seal goes in from the brake side, with the lip in and the steel washer side toward the brake.



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