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Need opinion of WD's hand clutch

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Larry in wiscon

07-02-2004 13:27:43




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I've been told by several people not to use the WD's hand clutch unless absoulutly necessary. I would think that since it runs in oil it would be fairly robust. Please give your two cents worth. Thanks in advance.




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SpiderWeb

07-09-2004 20:34:36




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 Re: Need opinion of WD's hand clutch in reply to Larry in wisconsin, 07-02-2004 13:27:43  
I think Farmer Bob ment to reply to you Larry in Wiss. About the WD Hand Clutch See it under Posting. Remember the old saying If it ain"t broke don"t fix it!!



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jimbe

07-04-2004 06:42:02




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 Re: Need opinion of WD's hand clutch in reply to Larry in wisconsin, 07-02-2004 13:27:43  
for the people who think the WD hand clutch is weak. do we ever wonder why the clutch is working, but the hand clutch lever is nearlyworn out?? just an observation.



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Kevin Bismark

07-03-2004 22:28:49




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 Re: Need opinion of WD's hand clutch in reply to Larry in wisconsin, 07-02-2004 13:27:43  
I have to agree with everyone else, that was a really good clutch, just don't leave it sit with the clutch leaver in the forward position for a long time with the tractor parked, it won't ruin anything but you might find that the clutch won't stay engaged after that, it will pop forward on it's own after a few seconds, took a little screwing around to make it work again, don't remember what we did it was 20 years ago, took out some shims and turned it and pulled the clutch leaver back, think my dad found out about that from some old mechanic, might even have the instructions writtin in an old tractor manual some place, wish I still had that tractor, it was an old WD.

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Brian G. NY

07-03-2004 17:47:25




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 Re: Need opinion of WD's hand clutch in reply to Larry in wisconsin, 07-02-2004 13:27:43  
Your "Advisor" may have confused the WD with the CA which had a "dry" cone-type clutch which is not so "forgiving" as the WD/WD-45 oil clutch.



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t.lilly

07-09-2004 20:25:58




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 Re: Re: Need opinion of WD's hand clutch in reply to Brian G. NY, 07-03-2004 17:47:25  
is it possible to replace the hand clutch with a straight axle on a allis CA?



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Bill(Wis)

07-03-2004 09:55:52




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 Re: Need opinion of WD's hand clutch in reply to Larry in wisconsin, 07-02-2004 13:27:43  
The hand clutch was put on the WD in 1948 to handle the roto-balers need to stop each time a bale was ejected. In a heavy hay crop that could mean every ten feet all day long. The unit was so indestructible that the WD45 version was, as I understand, used as the variable speed device in a subsequent combine.



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Butch

07-02-2004 19:16:29




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 Re: Need opinion of WD's hand clutch in reply to Larry in wisconsin, 07-02-2004 13:27:43  
As others have very well stated that clutch is very close to indestructable. With the high speed low gear Allis choose to use in the WDs those clutches were slipped all day long pulling combines in down and heavy crops. When they were used on the A-C rotobalers the tractor was stopped for each and every bale using that clutch so the PTO would run and wrap and eject the bale. Growing up around those tractors I dont remember anybody ever having troubles with it, something that cannot be said for any other mfg's live PTO arrangement. Now those tractors are 5o years old and still only very occasionaly a person will find one with a worn out clutch, most of the time you will find that most of the original shim pack still in place and removal of a few will make it work like new. I am not much for political correctness, those guys who told you not to use the hand clutch are F. O. S.

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wdTom

07-02-2004 17:48:42




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 Re: Need opinion of WD's hand clutch in reply to Larry in wisconsin, 07-02-2004 13:27:43  
They have a reputation of being almost indestructable. When the oil in the transmission gets warm you may be able to shift OK with it too. Stopping and starting, use it all you want. If you put a thinner oil in the transmission you will be able to use it more. The 45 I operated as a kid, which got a LOT of use never had a clutch problem and we used it (the hand clutch) a lot. I used it for loading manure and almost all other tractor use, using the foot clutch only until the oil warmed up enough to allow using the hand clutch. They will stand a lot of slippage, although I wouldn't make a practice of it. The AC dealer at that time, early 60s, said it was a factory approved thing to replace the 90 weight oil in the transmission with 20 weight just so the clutch wouldn't drag as much. And that is how that tractor lived it's life for as long as I knew it, with 20 weight in the transmission.

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John (C-IL)

07-02-2004 17:43:51




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 Re: Need opinion of WD's hand clutch in reply to Larry in wisconsin, 07-02-2004 13:27:43  
I'm with everybody else, the WD/WD45 hand clutch was one of the greatest inventions ever. Used and abused, they seldom give you any trouble.



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David

07-02-2004 17:09:48




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 Re: Need opinion of WD's hand clutch in reply to Larry in wisconsin, 07-02-2004 13:27:43  
I would say the hand clutch is virtually indestructable. We had a WD and a WD45 that were used on a pull type Allcrop 60 and later a Big bin 66. The clutch got much slipping when the windrows were heavy. I don't think they ever needed any attention other than taking a shim out once in a great while.



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Doug in OR

07-02-2004 15:03:47




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 Re: Need opinion of WD's hand clutch in reply to Larry in wisconsin, 07-02-2004 13:27:43  
I grew up with a WD in the hills of western WI. In the 8 years I drove that WD, the hand clutch never once gave an ounce of trouble. I used it instead of the foot clutch as often as not. Considering that the foot clutch is hard to reach for a kid, you can see my reason why. In those 8 years, we did go through one foot clutch. By the way, we used a roto baler. Need I say more?



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Robert OH

07-09-2004 20:49:37




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 Re: Re: Need opinion of WD's hand clutch in reply to Doug in OR, 07-02-2004 15:03:47  
I think enough has been said on how good that A/C hand clutch has been. There were problims on some CA"s end of discussion.



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Sid

07-02-2004 14:41:50




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 Re: Need opinion of WD's hand clutch in reply to Larry in wisconsin, 07-02-2004 13:27:43  
The hand clutch was designed to start and stop ground travel. I am not aware of any legitmate reason for this advice if there are any I would like to hear them.



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