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sam in mo

06-25-2004 14:06:20




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does any one know what ser no they started makeing roto bailers that were automatic? ones that you didnt have to stop for to eject bale. Thanks in advance. Sam




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John (C-IL)

06-26-2004 07:20:50




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 Re: roto bailer in reply to sam in mo, 06-25-2004 14:06:20  
I guess I didn't answer the question in my early post. The No. 10 baler was designed to be a non stop baler and accomplished this by the use of a conveyor that recirculated the hay while bale was being ejected. One of the innovations that continued in later balers was the fast wrap mechanism. The No. 10 didn't work too well and most of the recirculation conveyors were removed. I grew up with the rotobaler and was in high school before I realized all hay bales were not round. Allis Chalmers was ahead of their time and had a big round baler in development, but it was dropped because the handling equipment to deal with a 2000 lb bale didn't exist at the time.

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Sid

06-26-2004 19:59:13




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 Re: Re: roto bailer in reply to John (C-IL), 06-26-2004 07:20:50  
Thanks for posting the info John I for one appreciate it.



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Sid

06-25-2004 15:46:55




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 Re: roto bailer in reply to sam in mo, 06-25-2004 14:06:20  
Sam I do not know of any roto balers that you do not have to stop to eject the bale. I would be intersted in knowing what make and model you are talking about.



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sam in mo

06-25-2004 17:00:11




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 Re: Re: roto bailer in reply to Sid, 06-25-2004 15:46:55  
I have been told that the last couple of years that A C made round balers that you didnt have to stop for them to wrap the bales and eject them. I think they quit makeing them in the late fiftys or early sixties. Sam



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John (C-IL)

06-25-2004 19:55:58




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 Re: Re: Re: roto bailer in reply to sam in mo, 06-25-2004 17:00:11  
This is the information that I have "gleaned" from Norm Swinfords book. The No. 10 rotobaler was built in 1958, there were 1500 copies and the serial numbers were C101-C1600. Roto balers were made from 1948 through 1964 and then again from 1972 through 1974. 77,200 standard and fast wrap balers were built in addition to the 1500 No.10s.



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Jim Snow

06-25-2004 20:37:46




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: roto bailer in reply to John (C-IL), 06-25-2004 19:55:58  
As far as I know AC never made a automatic roto-baler, never ran but was around one tor thr first 13 years of my life very tempermental,had to have alot of patience to run one or work on it. Dad always said he could bale more hay after 5 pm than he could all day. Hay had to be dry or it wouldn't bale it, didn't have to woory about hay moulding, with these. Snow.



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muleguy

06-26-2004 05:48:41




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: roto bailer in reply to Jim Snow, 06-25-2004 20:37:46  
i never heard of an Allis Roto-Baler that you didnt have to stop for, dont think there ever was one. there was a fast wrap model. think about it, if you didnt stop for it to tie, the table would fill up with hay while you were moving and the unit would hopelessly jam.



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David Manring

06-26-2004 13:32:22




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: roto bailer in reply to muleguy, 06-26-2004 05:48:41  
They only made one with the"fast wrap" attachment and it made the tying cycle faster. As far as i know they disconnected these so they would operate the old way.
My brother and I custom bailed with two of these on WD tractors.We found out early on how tempermental these were.
Once you figured the machine out, you knew what to do to get any bailing done or be down.
My dad( who run the square bailer) bought a late model one at a sale a few years ago. As i was up on vacation i got the job of running it in and it was kind of fun, but back in the old days it was a chore!!!

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sam in mo

06-27-2004 18:16:09




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: roto bailer in reply to David Manring, 06-26-2004 13:32:22  
Thanks to everyone that responded. I know more now than I did before so that is a pluss. Thanks again Sam



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