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Help! Need Filter #'s for D-17 High Crop

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Glen Thibodeaux

06-06-2004 20:23:45




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I'm buying a D-17 high crop if I can get it started. The tractor was operated until it was run out of fuel, when more disel was added the owner could not get it started again. I was going to change the fuel filters and bleed the air out at the injectors. Is this the correct way to start a disel tractor after is has been run dry? Can someone help me with the filter numbers?
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Glen




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Kevin (FL)

06-07-2004 19:40:31




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 Re: Help! Need Filter #'s for D-17 High Crop in reply to Glen Thibodeaux, 06-06-2004 20:23:45  
Glen,

Take the old filters out and bring them to local NAPA or other industrial parts place that sells WIX or other brand filters. They can match what was installed or provide the correct ones. Drain any water from the filter housing and clean it out with clean diesel. With the line taken loose from the filter inlet side, pout some diesel in the tank to verify good flow through the small strainer under the tank. (Could also clean this one out too--wouldn't hurt.) Once you verify good fuel flow and have the filters installed, then open fuel shutoff valve and allow fuel to flow into the filters. Open vent plugs on the top of the filter housing and bleed off any air until diesel flows with no bubbles. Once filters are bled, then crack injection pump inlet line until diesel flows "clean" with no bubbles. Tighten this line and then try cranking engine over. You'll need a good hot battery and cables and a good starter too. On our D17, there's a cold start cap that can be removed right on the intake. You can spray some WD-40 into this area while cranking too. If you don't seem to be getting any fuel across the injection pump, then loosen the fuel line nuts at each injector--about 2-3 turns. Now crank engine over for about 30 seconds or so and see if fuel "spits" out or at lease seeps out at each fuel line connection at each injector. Once you're getting good fuel delivery to each injector then tighten all 6 lines and crank the engine over until it starts. Don't forget to install the cold start cap back onto the manifold.

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Glen

06-08-2004 05:51:31




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 Re: Re: Help! Need Filter #'s for D-17 High Crop in reply to Kevin (FL), 06-07-2004 19:40:31  
Kevin,
Thank you very much for the info, its just the type of info I needed. Should the fuel flow be the same at the filter bleed and the injecter pump as it is at the fuel tank strainer? I didn't check the flow at pump, but at the filter bleeder the fuel slowly flowed there. When I checked at the fuel strainer it flowed fast. Also how rare are the high crop's? Any idea as to value of one in average condition? Thanks for all of your help.

Glen

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Kevin (FL)

06-08-2004 10:08:51




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 Re: Re: Re: Help! Need Filter #'s for D-17 High in reply to Glen, 06-08-2004 05:51:31  
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Glen,

Here's the front axle of the D17 "cane tractor". Yours is probably the same setup, right?



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Kevin (FL)

06-08-2004 09:57:03




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 Re: Re: Re: Help! Need Filter #'s for D-17 High in reply to Glen, 06-08-2004 05:51:31  
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Glen,

Fuel will flow quickly through the tank screen filter but slowly through the fuel filters. The filtering media slows down the flow quite a bit. Just keep bleeding the fuel until you see "solid fuel" with no bubbles.

Can't help out much on the value question. I know they're fairly rare, but they don't seem to raise the value by a real high percentage. We saw one in 2002 down in Mississippi near my home town. See photos in photo section or right here if my posting works. These were modified by Thompson Machinery Works in Thibodeaux, LA for the sugar cane fields.

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Kevin (FL)

06-08-2004 10:00:04




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Help! Need Filter #'s for D-17 H in reply to Kevin (FL), 06-08-2004 09:57:03  
Maybe this will work. Tried placing photo link in "optional URL" instead of "Image URL".



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Kevin (FL)

06-08-2004 10:07:02




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Help! Need Filter #'s for D- in reply to Kevin (FL), 06-08-2004 10:00:04  
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OK--Last try. This time I right-clicked on the image itself to get the URL.



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Glen

06-08-2004 12:06:45




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Help! Need Filter #'s fo in reply to Kevin (FL), 06-08-2004 10:07:02  
Your looks close, but the front tires/wheels are not the same. Is yours a series 2, 3, or 4 ? Did you know thompson also made cane loaders that bolted onto the tractors? Do you need any parts for yours? Do you think $1,500.00 is to much to pay for one running with fair tires and sheet metal?

Glen



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Kevin (FL)

06-08-2004 20:08:45




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Help! Need Filter #' in reply to Glen, 06-08-2004 12:06:45  
Glen,

The photos I posted was not our tractor--just one that I noticed on the side of the highway on a road trip. I know that it wasn't a Series III or IV though. We do have a '59 D17 diesel but it's not a cane model. On the one you're asking about, $1500 doesn't sound like a ridiculous price for a running D17. I like the diesel models, but wouldn't turn down a gas model either if the price was right. I know where a Series III is but it has the single front tire and it's not in the best of shape.

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