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D17 won't start

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Jordan

05-16-2004 07:51:40




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Hello,

I am having problems with my D17 starting. It has been running well for the last year or so, but then I started having problems. It started with the tractor being hard to start after it was running for a while. Then it progressed to being hard to start all the time. And now it won't turn over. It makes a click sound and that it is. Things I have replaced: alternator, starter, starter solenoid, positive and negative battery cables, cable from solenoid to starter, and the battery. It doesn't turn over at all. I took the starter off and turned the ignition and the starter turned. I did try to bypass the solenoids but got the same click sound.

Where should I go from here?

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Gene

05-16-2004 20:47:57




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 Re: D17 won't start in reply to Jordan, 05-16-2004 07:51:40  
Voltmeter. When check for voltage drops across each connection - there should very little or no voltage drop across each connection. You should see full battery voltage at the starter terminal. Testing from the negative terminal on the battery to the terminal on the starter - you shouldn't get a big voltage drop until you energize the starter.

Ampprobe: Expensive item. If you have an electrician friend have him check the amp draw on the battery cable going to the starter when you try to start the engine. Without knowing the specs for the starter I would guess you should see a 200 to 450 amp load initially going to the starter.

Pull the spark plugs. Attach the battery charger to the battery. Set the charger in the jump start position. Try starting the engine.

A guess. If the starter turns when you have it out of the tractor, everything is wired correctly. It takes quite a number of amps for the starter to turn over the engine. I'd guess the battery is the problem. If you had a loose connection, you should see or hear arcing.

Try jacking up a wheel. Could be that one or more pistons are badly scored. Let's hope not.

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Jordan

05-17-2004 04:28:18




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 Re: Re: D17 won't start in reply to Gene, 05-16-2004 20:47:57  
Thanks agian!!!!



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wolfy

05-16-2004 19:11:08




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 Re: D17 won't start in reply to Jordan, 05-16-2004 07:51:40  
Spark plugs & points.



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Jordan

05-16-2004 19:14:41




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 Re: Re: D17 won't start in reply to wolfy, 05-16-2004 19:11:08  
I forgot to mention that I changed the ignition to electronic ignition and changed the spark plugs and wires.



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Jordan

05-16-2004 19:18:47




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 Re: Re: Re: D17 won't start in reply to Jordan, 05-16-2004 19:14:41  
Thanks!!! By the way!!!



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Gene

05-16-2004 17:42:20




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 Re: D17 won't start in reply to Jordan, 05-16-2004 07:51:40  
Love a good mystery. Let�s eliminate the mechanical. Remove the spark plugs, squirt oil into each cylinder, jack and block up one rear wheel. Put the tractor in 4th gear. Turn the top of the blocked up wheel towards the front of the tractor. Motor should turn freely with some little resistance. If you get a great deal of resistance or can�t budge the engine you have a mechanical problem.

Electrical wiring and connections. Double check the wiring to see that everything is wired properly and that the battery cables are on the right terminals. Battery cables/terminals are clean and tight, both ends. Starter bolts are tight.

Battery: Fully charged. 12.7 volts approximately. Cheap and quick load test the battery. Connect a voltmeter to the fully charged battery. Try to start the engine. The voltage on a good battery should not drop more than 1� volts during this test. If the battery voltage drops to 11 volts or lower consider replacing the battery. You can have the battery tested at any shop selling batteries. You could try jumping the battery from a running vehicle to see what happens.

The only thing left is the starter.

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Jordan

05-16-2004 19:22:58




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 Re: Re: D17 won't start in reply to Gene, 05-16-2004 17:42:20  
Thanks Gene. I thought the same thing. I replaced the starter last week. I will get a vlotmeter and see if I can find out if enough power is making it to the starter (after I try your suggestion about the wheel). Do you know how much power should make it to the starter?

Thanks again!!!



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Jordan

05-16-2004 19:18:01




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 Re: Re: D17 won't start in reply to Gene, 05-16-2004 17:42:20  
I just replaced the battery and made sure it was fully charged. Has anyone tried the battery chargers that have the starter option on it? Mine has a 125 amp start mode. I forgot to mention that I changed the ignition to electronic ignition and changed the spark plugs and wires. I also replaced all the wires from the baterry to the starter solenoid, from the solenoid to the starter as well. I will try the wheel and see if there is a mechanical problem.

Thanks!!!

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wolfy

05-16-2004 19:31:41




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 Re: Re: Re: D17 won't start in reply to Jordan, 05-16-2004 19:18:01  
Maybe check all those new wires-especially ground wires. Could be a bad new wire??



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Jordan

05-16-2004 19:33:11




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: D17 won't start in reply to wolfy, 05-16-2004 19:31:41  
Thanks Wolfy - will do. I will take the voltmeter to it along each connection.



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