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Allis C pitman arm direction,??

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05-13-2004 15:41:06

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Hello guys I have a allis C I am putting back together, I cant remember which direction the pitman arm off the steering box goes on, is it supposed to be pointing up where the tierod attacthes or facing down, I have seen pics and it appears to be facing up, but the book I have shows pointing down, I installed it facing up once and it seems to bind."I replaced a bearing on the bottom of the shaft",but was wondering if the cause was because I installed the pitman arm backwards, thanks for any help,pat

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05-13-2004 18:37:01

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 Re: Allis C pitman arm direction,?? in reply to pat,maplehillfrm, 05-13-2004 15:41:06  
a C goes up.....B goes down.....Its common for C's to steer hard and make a binding noise when turning when its setting still.....the steering gears (ross or kemmer) are kinda weak, the engauging "pawl" on the sector shaft wears down...I just put a rebuilt sector shaft in my steering gear box, and it turns good now....the C has quick steering compared to other tractors i've had, ...quick steering puts alot of pressure on the steering gear.....I think the CA has a bigger gear box,but i don't believe they will interchange....lets see what others have to say

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05-13-2004 21:23:45

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 Re: Re: Allis C pitman arm direction,?? in reply to Ed, 05-13-2004 18:37:01  
well thats what mine sounds like, a very hard to turn wheel and a binding sort of squaking noise, thanks I will put it all back together and see if it steers easier, I appreciate the come back,pat

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05-14-2004 06:35:31

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 Re: Re: Re: Allis C pitman arm direction,?? in reply to pat, 05-13-2004 21:23:45  
Pat...I mis-quoted the previous post,, I replaces the pitman shaft (not the sector shaft as i stated earlier).....Oh, by the way, see if your steering gear box has a grease fitting on it, it was common to put a grease fitting in the filler hole if the box developed a leak...sometimes the "grease" does'nt do a good job of lubricating...try to pump some gear oil in it...originally they were to hold oil not grease.........also make sure that the ajustment on the side of the box is'nt set too tight, if the "play" was ajusted out of the box when the steering wheel was centered, it will bind the farther you turn it...most of these old sector worms were pretty worn in the center (middle) position...so alot of "play" is common (in the center position) so it won't bind when you're turning

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