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Bill

05-02-2004 21:31:24




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Hello, I am thinking about Purchasing an AC D17. The tractor itself runs well. It is a gas powered tractor. It does need paint but is mostly solid. It has brand new tires all the way around. I know very little about AC tractors so I was wondering what else I shoud look for. For instance how do I tell what series the tractor is? Are there any known issues that these tractors have that I should be aware of? How well do these tractors work? I know the description is vague but what would be a good ballpark figure for the value of this tractor? Any and all help would be greatly appreciated.

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Bill

05-10-2004 21:27:19




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 Re: D-17 in reply to Bill , 05-02-2004 21:31:24  
Thanks for all the information. I will check it out good.



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Rich

05-07-2004 14:35:27




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 Re: D-17 in reply to Bill , 05-02-2004 21:31:24  
no one mentioned value: in the midwest they go from about $1800 to $2500 or $3000 depending on answers to all the other good advice you got on condition. High end would be for painted, etc.



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John (MO)

05-04-2004 06:07:36




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 Re: D-17 in reply to Bill , 05-02-2004 21:31:24  
Don't forget to check the transmission to see how well it stays in gear. Over years of abuse by trying to shift the tractor on the go, many have gotten to when they want to jump out of gear. 3rd is usually the worst,but all gears can be affected. You can test for the problem best by driving the tractor down hill in each gear. Then quickly reducing the throttle so that you get an engine braking effect. This puts the pressure on the back side of the drive train from the rear wheels up to the engine. This is when the problem is most likely to present it's self. Depending on how bad the problem is, if it exists, and which gears are affected, it's sometimes not all that bad to just live with. But sometimes it is so bad as to practically make a tractor unusable for particular operations. The fix is not cheap if it's bad enough to need gears replaced in the transmission.

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JMS/MN

05-02-2004 22:05:41




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 Re: D-17 in reply to Bill , 05-02-2004 21:31:24  
Series is determined by serial number, located on the upper left side of clutch housing, where the engine bolts to it. Starts with D17. Series I starts at 1001. Series II starts at 32001. Series III starts at42001. Series IV starts at 75001.`Power Director lever (Hand clutch)provides live hydraulic and pto on Series I-III. Series IV has an independent hydraulic pump mounted midway on the right side- where a belt pulley could fit on the other Series. Make sure the hand clutch has a good snap to it in both Hi and Lo ranges- replacing the PD means splitting the tractor and spending some bucks. Good solid tractor, handy size, parts available and easy to work on and drive.

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Bill

05-03-2004 15:44:44




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 Re: Re: D-17 in reply to JMS/MN, 05-02-2004 22:05:41  
First off thanks for the info. I will get the serial number when I look at it. Now about the Power Director, How much would it cost if it did need to be replaced. I did not drive the tractor yet so I am not sure if it has a good snap to it or not. Is this something that is adjustable? I plan to look at the tractor this coming weekend



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JMS/MN

05-03-2004 18:09:19




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 Re: Re: Re: D-17 in reply to Bill, 05-03-2004 15:44:44  
There is an adjustment, with shims. You remove shims from one side of the housing, and put them on the other side. If the discs are shot, there is no adjustment and you need to split the tractor and replace them. Don't know current costs, but I did one about 1980, and the discs, plus a couple of bearings and gears rearward of the clutch cost about $600 for parts. I think the rear stuff was 150-200 of the cost. Own labor, with a homemade splitting stand. When you try out the tractor, try Lo and Hi position, stand on the brakes- it better keep trying to pull ahead. If the engine keeps running and you go nowhere- price the parts before you buy.

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