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Need Advice on purchasing a AC? Newby?

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D. MAC (St. Lou

04-28-2004 07:23:31




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I placed a post in the general forum, but thought I'd try here as well, being that I really like AC tractors, and being that my cousins own 3! So, with that said, and briefly: I would like a tractor that has enough power to pull a 600 lb disc harrow (1/2 - 4 acres), drill holes with an auger & brushhog. I'd prefer something compact, so I'm leaning towards a AC D-14? I was considering a D-19 (70 hp), but I'm concerned about the tight turning radius? Especially with small food plots, will I be able to make relatively small turns with the D-19 vs D-14? What AC tractor would you suggest? Guessing I'm looking for 30 - 70 hp in order to be flexible enough to handle most work I plan to do? Further more, I wouldn't mind something I could easily trailer, and the D-19 is fairly big for trailr'in?

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Tom Westerfield

04-29-2004 19:31:11




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 Re: Need Advice on purchasing a AC? Newby? in reply to D. MAC (St. Louis, MO), 04-28-2004 07:23:31  
Based on your stated acreage, I too would lean toward the CA. I have a C, CA, D-14, WD-45, D-21. The CA is by far the most flexible. Its a two plow tractor in reasonable soil. With front weights it really plows well. The PTO is standard size. The hand clutch, which stops forward motion while continuing the PTO is great with mowing, baling hay, etc. where a brief heavy load is encountered. After market 3 point hitches make the CA adaptable to a wide range of equipment. The D-19 is overkill, also the gas model is a real hog. The D-14 costs 2X to 3X what a CA does.

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MartinKY

04-29-2004 01:04:10




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 Re: Need Advice on purchasing a AC? Newby? in reply to D. MAC (St. Louis, MO), 04-28-2004 07:23:31  
You might want to look at a CA. Nice small tractor and has the power to handle the small acerage that you are talking about.
The D-19 that you are thinking about may consume more gas than you might have expected.



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Bryan g in mo

04-28-2004 19:18:23




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 Re: Need Advice on purchasing a AC? Newby? in reply to D. MAC (St. Louis, MO), 04-28-2004 07:23:31  
I see that you live in St.louis,I was just at Gerry counts implement in Sullivan they have a real nice D-15, wide front and three point, you might give them a call and see if the price is right.



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Clint

04-30-2004 20:03:54




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 Re: Re: Need Advice on purchasing a AC? Newby? in reply to Bryan g in mo, 04-28-2004 19:18:23  
Be carefull about Gerry Counts Implement. My brother and I almost got into a bad deal there once. We were able to talk to a previous owner of a mach. they had. The difference in their descriptions hours, cond etc.was way apart.



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D. Mac (STL, MO)

04-28-2004 14:35:02




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 Re: Need Advice on purchasing a AC? Newby? in reply to D. MAC (St. Louis, MO), 04-28-2004 07:23:31  
John,
It seems D15's and D17's are hard to come by! Did they make D15's and D17's in narrow front as well as "A" style or single wheel? not sure what the term is for it (two wheels side by side).



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Mark in MO

04-29-2004 08:56:47




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 Re: Re: Need Advice on purchasing a AC? Newby? in reply to D. Mac (STL, MO), 04-28-2004 14:35:02  
D.Mac, Why the need for a narrow front? If you ever think that you may want a loader I'd suggest a D17 Series IV, or as I posted earlier, 170/175/180. This past winter on the AGCO web-site, a dealer in Iowa had a "Slick" 175 Diesel (Black Stripe)for $7,500. Mark Hil
Dearborn,MO



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D. MAC

04-29-2004 11:27:31




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 Re: Re: Re: Need Advice on purchasing a AC? Newby? in reply to Mark in MO, 04-29-2004 08:56:47  
Mark-
What website is AGCO??? Do you have the link?

Thanks



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Mark in MO

04-29-2004 12:18:35




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Need Advice on purchasing a AC? Ne in reply to D. MAC, 04-29-2004 11:27:31  
Also try:
www.equipment-locator.com
www.ironsearch.com
www.machinefinder.com



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Mark in MO

04-29-2004 11:52:18




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Need Advice on purchasing a AC? Ne in reply to D. MAC, 04-29-2004 11:27:31  
www.agcocorpdealers.com



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John (MO)

04-28-2004 14:45:11




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 Re: Re: Need Advice on purchasing a AC? Newby? in reply to D. Mac (STL, MO), 04-28-2004 14:35:02  
Yes, I believe D-14, D-15, D-17 and D-19 could be had with wide or narrow front and I think the narrow could be 1 wheel or 2 on all models but I'm not 100% sure about that. The narrow front 1 wheel would be the smallest production in all models. Narrow front is sometimes called tricycle but I think that's the case with 1 wheel or 2. The one wheel models would likely be of more interest to collectors than the others because less were made.

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John (MO)

04-28-2004 14:15:41




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 Re: Need Advice on purchasing a AC? Newby? in reply to D. MAC (St. Louis, MO), 04-28-2004 07:23:31  
The D-19 is kind of heavy for trailering but there is really not much difference in how small an area you can work between the two tractors. Standing on one brake either will turn around in about their own length. Most times you can buy a D-19 for a lot less than any of the other D series tractors, and you'll never regret the extra HP. Lots of people seem to think the D-17 series 4 is the best D series tractor you can buy, and that may be true if purchase price is not a consideration. But if purchase price is not a consideration then why not buy a new tractor with cab and air? There is no cheaper HP to be found than a reasonable condition, reasonable priced D-19.

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Worth

04-28-2004 12:38:58




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 Re: Need Advice on purchasing a AC? Newby? in reply to D. MAC (St. Louis, MO), 04-28-2004 07:23:31  
D-17 is the way to go. Pulls a three bottom plow all day long in tight land and a four bottom if you don't have to pull through hard clay.



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Mark in MO

04-28-2004 09:25:22




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 Re: Need Advice on purchasing a AC? Newby? in reply to D. MAC (St. Louis, MO), 04-28-2004 07:23:31  
You may also consider AC 170/175/180



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John (C-IL)

04-28-2004 08:27:41




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 Re: Need Advice on purchasing a AC? Newby? in reply to D. MAC (St. Louis, MO), 04-28-2004 07:23:31  
My opinion is that you are really looking for a D17 and if you can get a series IV you will have the best of everything. Great power, 52hp, 3 point hitch and full time hydraulics. I know that it will cost you a few extra bucks to buy a good one, but it will be worth it in the long run.



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Russ

04-28-2004 16:11:00




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 Re: Re: Need Advice on purchasing a AC? Newby? in reply to John (C-IL), 04-28-2004 08:27:41  
D17; As I recall when a D17 was plowing in a field you knew it well beyond a 1/2 mile.
It is a really good tractor but be ready to buy a new set of ear muff hearing protection. Good luck in finding such a magnificent beast.



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Gene

05-05-2004 23:23:20




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 Re: Re: Re: Need Advice on purchasing a AC? Newby? in reply to Russ, 04-28-2004 16:11:00  
2 cents worth. $800 to $1000 range you can get a WD with 3 point (hydraulics) and fair rubber. WD will handle the disc, bush hog, post hole auger, two bottom plow, etc. I use a WD on 37 acres to clear brush, take care of food plots, build fence and on construction projects. As far as the short turning radius just step on the brake in the direction you want to turn. Ball park figure the WD weighs in at a little over 4000 pounds.

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