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Bob in Ky

04-26-2004 06:43:01




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I just tore my 48 model WD down. The old magneto was replaced with a distributor some time back and it ran great until the wide open throttle thing. My distributor lays horizontal to the frame. When I got the governor apart, I found the weights broken and laying in the bottom of the governor and the pins are bent. Everything else looks good. My question to you is, is there a way to tell if this is a mag governor or a distributor governor? Is there a difference? Can I changes these weights and pins or is there some calibration that I cannot do? I have the mag out and on my workbench. Any advise or help you could give me would be greatly appreciated. I am trying to get my tractor back together by this coming weekend so that I can finish disking and seeding. Where can I get the parts to put this back together?

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Butch

04-26-2004 11:03:56




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 Re: Question for Butch in reply to Bob in Ky, 04-26-2004 06:43:01  
All model WD tractors had magneto ignition untill around 51 or 52 (dont have a book handy). None the less, any 48 would have been magneto equipped so your distributor unit is a conversion, being horizonal makes me think it is from an IHC as all of the aftermaket kits that I am aware of were vertical. I dont belive that there was a change in the weights themselves for the factory distributor igntion but that is of no concern to you unless you are looking at used parts. If my memory serves me right any weights from a 201 from a WC al the way to WD-45 will work but have that verified by a parts book before you go junk yard scrounging. If you are getting parts from AGCO the tractor serial number will get you the correct parts. There is no calibration to do inside of the governor although a thorough inspection for other worn parts is in order. For no more than a maintenance manual costs it would be a good investment on this job. The high idle speed is changed by adjusting the length of the rod between the governor and the bell crank under the fuel tank. Idle speed, of course is adjusted at the carburetor.

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Bob in KY

04-26-2004 11:36:12




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 Re: Re: Question for Butch in reply to Butch, 04-26-2004 11:03:56  
Thanks Butch. It looked rather easy and it came apart very easy, so I should be OK. I am trying to find an AGCO dealer in Kentucky, and I have my parts numbers. I have all of the manuals including the original owner's manual, service manual and parts manuals. Thanks for your help and wish me luck.



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Bob in KY

04-26-2004 09:37:31




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 Re: Question for Butch in reply to Bob in Ky, 04-26-2004 06:43:01  
Can anybody give me information about the governor on my WD 48'model? Before I got it, somebody replaced the mag with a distributor. The distributor is laying horizontal to the frame. It runs great but now I have to replace the weights. Should I change the governor, or is a mag governor giving me all the power I could get with a disributor? Is there any difference? Also, where can I get the weights and pins that I will need to fix this? Is there any trick to this, or can a dummy like me do it? Is there anything else that I should be replacing while I am in there? Any help anyone could give to this neophyte would be greatly appreicated.

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Steve in N.J.

04-26-2004 11:41:32




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 Re: Re: Question for Butch in reply to Bob in KY, 04-26-2004 09:37:31  
Bob,
Not sure about your govenor problem (if you do have a problem with it) but, I can add a little light to the subject of the distributor and drive. As Butch mentioned, it does sound like the previous owner swapped over an IH setup to work on your WD. We rebuild F/M mags and Delco distributors, and as for the distributor, I rebuilt a Delco for one of our customers that's running a IH. The internals were just a tic different in that particular Delco distributor for the IH, so there most definetely could be a difference in the way it runs with a normal vertical style 1111735 or 1111411 Delco that would have come in your WD in later years. We can reprogram the distributors to come in sooner if so desired. We do that for a few of our pullers. If you have a mag that's in good shape, I would install it in the machine and run it and see how the engine runs. We have the correct drive and distributor setup if you want to install the correct unit and stay with a distributor. These are all rebuilt top to bottom including the drive assy and bolt right up to your WD's governor the same as OEM. Drop us a line if interested, and if you have any mag or distributor questions, I'll be glad to help you out!
Steve/B&B Custom Circuits
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(973)697-5747

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Bob in KY

04-26-2004 13:18:20




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 Re: Re: Re: Question for Butch in reply to Steve in N.J., 04-26-2004 11:41:32  
Thanks so much for your information Steve. Let me try to slip these weights back into this governor first and see if it works OK. I could use a tick more power to pull a plow but I am accustomed to a WD45, not this WD. You guys are great for getting back to me.



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