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1936 WC hand crank slips

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04-24-2004 20:09:23

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Hi, I have a 1936 WC and when I start it with a crank, the crank slips. It gets frustrating! Any cures? Will I have to disassemble the whole front end and replace the pulley? Thanks.. B.N.

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04-24-2004 23:29:39

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 Re: 1936 WC hand crank slips in reply to B.N., 04-24-2004 20:09:23  
Hi B.N. My WC has a loose front pulley due to someone not tightening the pointed bolt correctly that goes into the side of the pulley. The hole in the side of the crankshaft nose is now slotted from running with the bolt backing out as the engine was running. Ihave lost the bolt twice. I now check it often until I get another crankshaft with a good end and another tight-fitting pulley. hth good luck. dan wc ne wyo

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04-26-2004 08:01:48

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 Re: Re: 1936 WC hand crank slips in reply to dan wc ne wyo, 04-24-2004 23:29:39  
I have a 1943 WC and I thought the crank was just a straight shaft going threw the stering gear houseing am i wrong?


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04-26-2004 22:39:13

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 Re: Re: Re: 1936 WC hand crank slips in reply to jake , 04-26-2004 08:01:48  
Actually. There is a pin about 3/8 diameter by about 2 inches long going through the starting crank on the end opposite the handle, as well as a cotter key, spring, plus retainer for the spring. The pin in the starting crank engages two sharp dropoffs in the pulley when you push in and turn the starting crank. When the engine starts two ramps behind the dropoffs kick the starting crank out of the pulley.

I have had to replace the pin on my WC. The previous pin, probably a replacement, was made of very soft steel. I used a case hardened pin from the hardware store and tack welded it in place.

Dan could be correct about the bolt in the pulley being loose. The only thing holding the pulley to the crankshaft is a bolt with lock nut seated into a depression (shallow hole) in the crankshaft.


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04-24-2004 22:54:53

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 Re: 1936 WC hand crank slips in reply to B.N., 04-24-2004 20:09:23  
Just a guess. Either one or both ends of the pin going through the starting crank are worn off or broken off. I wouldn't think the pulley is bad. In any event, removing the hood and radiator will provide easy access. The starting crank is an inexpensive repair - couple of bucks.

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