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WD.......Should I buy it or run?

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PD

04-14-2004 19:01:30




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I have a chance to purchase a WD Allis, year unknown. It has turf tires on the rear and has been used to pull a three-point finish mower for the last several years. The local JD dealer has it on consignment, claims it has been well-cared for. My first inspection has revealed the following: Fan belt loose and trashed, air cleaner hose to carb is "mickey mouse", loose and fits poorly. Part of fan shroud is missing, oil black, a quart low. Temperature and oil pressure gauges inoperative, and have been for many years. Twelve volts with alternator. Both front tires poor, one is flat. Rear tires look good and fairly new. No wheel weights, but has spin-out wheels. Starts and runs well. Both clutches seem good, hydraulics seems okay. Aftermarket three-point looks strong and works well. The sheet metal is fairly good. A couple of dents in the gas tank. Big dollar decals over chipped paint. (Go figure). They want $1800, I offered $800, based on the fact that it would have to have four tires, and some maintenance work to perform satisfactorily. Probably should expect some oil use, due to the fact that it has been run forever with an inoperative/loose /missing air cleaner. It has been steam cleaned, so I have little other info to go on. Your comments and input would sure be appreciated here. Thanks and regards..... P

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mgr

04-16-2004 13:39:45




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 Re: WD.......Should I buy it or run? in reply to PD, 04-14-2004 19:01:30  
Seems like a fair price. I have a 1955 WD 45 I'm trying to sell that has had a complete rebuild top to bottom. last year I had to put a new crankshaft w/ all new seals and bearings, etc... This year I did the top end. Didn't need much but I replaced the rings anyway with several new gaskets. I've got decent rubber (water in the rears) and I mostly use it for mowing. It runs great, very reliable, uses / leaks virtually no oil, is very straight and clean, good paint, etc... and I wouldn't take anything less than $3500. I cn't replace it for anything less in as good a shape and with what I've put into it I can't afford to lose any more than that.

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Dave K

04-16-2004 09:24:04




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 Re: WD.......Should I buy it or run? in reply to PD, 04-14-2004 19:01:30  
I would stick with the $800 and no more, black oil etc shows lack of much, if any, maint. You can get a pretty good WD-45 for around $1000 to $1500 in a lot of places.

Dave



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Tom

04-15-2004 12:31:37




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 Re: WD.......Should I buy it or run? in reply to PD, 04-14-2004 19:01:30  
I would run. Anytime an aircleaner hose is loose and leaking unfiltered air into the intake, the whole inside of the engine is subject to being COMPLETELY worn out. If you must have it, plan on a complete overhaul - - top and bottom, as well as 4 new tires and tubes. You are talking lots of money - - more than you could ever get out of it.



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bw in mo

04-14-2004 19:36:17




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 Re: WD.......Should I buy it or run? in reply to PD, 04-14-2004 19:01:30  
The 800 you offered is plenty. If the dealer needs the 1800 to come out he put to much in it to start off with. But that is only my openion.

B W in mo



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steve

04-14-2004 19:32:29




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 Re: WD.......Should I buy it or run? in reply to PD, 04-14-2004 19:01:30  
your offer of $800. seems very fair. You see a lot of Wd or C tractors offered for $1800-2000, but then if you look hard enough you can always buy one for $700-800. It all depends on whos buying and how hard you want to look. AT $1800 i would think it will set on the lot for a long while, then again, there is always some body who has more money that sence and will buy the first tractor he sees. Sounds like you looked it over good and knew the answer before you asked. Good luck in your hunting.

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PD

04-18-2004 15:02:03




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 Re: Re: WD.......Should I buy it or run? in reply to steve, 04-14-2004 19:32:29  
Thanks, everyone, for your comments. I bought the old WD for $800 after I had to hear how I was killing the guy, etc., etc., and I think he was glad to find a breathing body to take the old pile of crap off his hands. I filled it with gas and drove it home, about 20 miles with my wife behind me to keep from getting run over. It ran really well, surprisingly well, and used four quarts of oil on the trip. I have no working oil pressure gauge, so I stopped frequently to check the oil. The engine sounds really good, but an overhaul is definitely needed. I have used it here at home with a three point blade and it seems okay. At $800, I can put some work into it and have a toy. Thanks again and wish me well. Regards..... P

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