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Eric in VA

03-27-2004 18:27:16




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I have a restored 1943 C. Im having some problems with the clutch. There is A LOT of travel in the clutch. It is almost to the stop before it disengages. I would like to know what to do. Im getting ready to split the tractor apart for a ring gear job. Ive thought about hooking it to a tree and burning the clutch off but Im not sure if that would work? Or would make problems worse? Any help would be great!
Thanks ERIC

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steve

03-27-2004 19:13:45




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 Re: C clutch problems in reply to Eric in VA, 03-27-2004 18:27:16  
check the pin clearance at the guys said. for a quick test, pull the cotter pin on the rond into the clutch pedal. remove the rod and screw it out of the clutch housing 4 turns, then reinstall. (it is screwed into the throwout bearing holder inside). See if you get better disengagement now. This makes up for wear on the three fingers inside on the throw out beawring.



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Eric in VA

03-28-2004 05:49:24




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 Re: Re: C clutch problems in reply to steve, 03-27-2004 19:13:45  
Steve,
I will try that here soon! Thanks for your help!



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Dick L I Have

03-28-2004 10:44:04




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 Re: Re: Re: C clutch problems in reply to Eric in VA, 03-28-2004 05:49:24  
A Don't Do!! WARNING
I bought a B a few years back that the guy had wanted more adjustment on the clutch rod, Sooo he threaded the end more so he could screw it in farther for whatever reason. Anywho the extra threads sticking thru the throwout bearing fork went into the clutch presure plate and tore up the presure plate. The one inch or so of threads are just that for a reason.



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Eric in VA

03-28-2004 11:00:15




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: C clutch problems in reply to Dick L I Have, 03-28-2004 10:44:04  
Gene,
I will be sure to not do that. Thanks for the warning!



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CHALMERSBOB

03-28-2004 18:20:02




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: C clutch problems in reply to Eric in VA, 03-28-2004 11:00:15  
IF YOU ARE GOING TO SPLIT THE TRACTOR TO INSTALL A NEW RING GEAR, THEN JUST REMOVE THE CLUTCH AND CHECK IT OUT. IF ITS BAD, YOU CAN REPLACE IT. IF IT LOOKS GOOD, THEN REINSTALL IT AND ADJUST IT BY THE BOOK. LOL
BOB



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Mike R.

03-27-2004 18:58:29




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 Re: C clutch problems in reply to Eric in VA, 03-27-2004 18:27:16  
Eric , in alot of them the pedal has worn alot and is quite loose and sloppy on the the pin it pivots on. Also the end of the rod that goes into the pedal and goes to the release bearing wears alot. All of that slop causes you to loose travel and alot of tractors have had that rod cut and had some added to it to compensate. I've even seen a few with a turn buckle added for adjustment. Some things for ya to look at ? what you can do is have the pedal reamed and a bushing installed to bring it back to the right diameter. hth Mike

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wdTom

03-27-2004 18:54:09




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 Re: C clutch problems in reply to Eric in VA, 03-27-2004 18:27:16  
I wouldn't "burn the clutch off" you might also heat and crack the flywheel and pressure plate. Usually they have a few heat cracks anyway, wouldn't want to make them worse.



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CHALMERSBOB

03-28-2004 18:24:21




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 Re: Re: C clutch problems in reply to wdTom, 03-27-2004 18:54:09  
IF YOU ARE GOING TO SPLIT THE TRACTOR TO INSTALL A NEW RING GEAR, THE REMOVE THE CLUTCH AND CHECK IT OUT. IF IT IS BAD REPLACE IT, BUT IF IT IS OK JUST REINSTALL IT . EITHER WAY SET IT UP BY THE BOOK TO ASURE IT IS CORRECT. LOL
BOB



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