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Allis Chalmers #9 Disc Harrow

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Tom

03-08-2004 09:07:01




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In the past, Rod has helped me with the dirt scrapers on a #9 disc harrow for my Model B. Rod, I had some machined for the discs per your diagram. I did have one scraper left on the disc. However, mine had a slight angle. It looks like it was supposed to be that way in order for the disc not to rub on the scraper. I have two questions. Should there be a bend/angle in the dirt scraper? If there should be, am I to assume that there should be half of them angled to the left and the other half angled to the right? I do not have the luxury of running out to look at the disc since it is 2 hours from my home. Thanks again for all your help. Tom

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Rod (NH)

03-08-2004 10:52:13




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 Re: Allis Chalmers #9 Disc Harrow in reply to Tom, 03-08-2004 09:07:01  
Hi Tom,

Yes, mine have that angle also in the area where the scraper may contact the disc. I don't know if new ones have that angle or not. I didn't show it on the diagram because I thought it was caused by wear due to the scrapers rubbing against the disc over time. There certainly is no bend; just an angle that could easily be ground with a hand grinder if you desire. If so, yes, half would have to be ground on one side and the other half on the opposite side. I am not sure if it is necessary though. Some of my scrapers are obviously worn down due to rubbing. See this one:

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It's not in good alignment either :o). Others are no longer hard up against the discs, probably due to weakened springs, but still have that angle on 'em. I doubt this is unique to the AC #9 harrows but is probably the same for others also. Perhaps someone who knows what new scrapers look like will clarify if they start out life with that angle. In any event, I don't think it would take long to wear 'em down if they are used.

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Tom

03-08-2004 17:05:52




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 Re: Re: Allis Chalmers #9 Disc Harrow in reply to Rod (NH), 03-08-2004 10:52:13  
Rod,

Thanks for the reply! Sorry, I probably did not explain myself clearly. I know what you are refering to, but my scraper actually has a bend about half way down the steel. I would guess it is at about 5 to 10 degrees. My thoughts were that this allowed room for the scraper not to touch the disc. If I mounterd it to the frame with no angle, it looked like it would drive directly in to the disc and not allow it to function properly. Should the scraper fit tight up against the disc? By the looks of the picture, it should. Sorry for the confusion.

Thanks! Tom

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Rod (NH)

03-08-2004 22:22:30




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 Re: Re: Re: Allis Chalmers #9 Disc Harrow in reply to Tom, 03-08-2004 17:05:52  
There definitely is NO bend in my scrapers. Any required angles are taken care of in the scraper mounting brackets. The scrapers are just flat pieces of steel. Of course AC could have manufactured the #9 harrows with different scrapers (and different mounting brackets). Certainly possible. I believe the scraper should fit up snug to the disc. Some of mine don't touch the disc by about 1/4" and are real sloppy but that is probably due to old/bad springs or bad adjustment. The manual indicates that "Scrapers may be adjusted up to or away from the discs as desired by loosening bolts through scraper angles and scraper brackets and shifting scrapers". There is no part called a "scraper angle" in the parts list so reference to that above is confusing. However, it appears that the scrapers could be adjusted simply by loosening the bolts holding the scraper mounting brackets to the weight pan frame. I don't know how much leeway is available in such an adjustment as I have never tried it.

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Tom

03-09-2004 16:41:40




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Allis Chalmers #9 Disc Harrow in reply to Rod (NH), 03-08-2004 22:22:30  
Rod,

Thanks for all your help. My guess is that the scraper somehow got bent accidentally or purposefully because the one that was left on the disc did not even reach the disc blade. Thanks again! Tom



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