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Dead power steering on D17 Diesel

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Fargo

04-29-1999 11:36:52




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Any ideas on how to fix this? Where to look and what to take apart? It all seems internal.

Thanks in advance.




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Gordon Chance

04-29-1999 16:17:43




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 Re: Dead power steering on D17 Diesel in reply to Fargo, 04-29-1999 11:36:52  
Fargo: Have you checked the power steering fluid level in the front support at the plug in front of the radiator? Is the power steering pump driven from the back of the generator or is it belt driven from the front crankshaft pulley? Is the power steering completely dead or does it seem to work in one direction and not the other? Post back or E-mail me with more information and I will try and zero in on possible causes of your problem. Gordon

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Fargo

04-30-1999 07:56:27




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 Re: Re: Dead power steering on D17 Diesel in reply to Gordon Chance, 04-29-1999 16:17:43  
Gordon, thanks for replying. I will answer on the BB in case anyone has the same problem.

I just had a hole welded in the PS resevoir and filled it with fluid. The PS was working fine for about 20 hours and died fast in about 15 minutes after which I filled the resevoir to the top just in case it was the fluid. It is very hard, almost impossible to steer in either direction unless I lift the front end up with the loader. I have 4000lbs of counterweights on the back end so there isn't too much weight on the front.

Does this help?

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Fargo

04-30-1999 08:03:35




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 Re: Re: Re: Dead power steering on D17 Diesel in reply to Fargo, 04-30-1999 07:56:27  
Gordon, I can't tell you where the pump is yet because I won't be up at my farm until May 8th. When the steering died I just put it in the barn without looking at it yet. (my three small girls have been keeping me busy - one is newborn)

Talk to you soon.



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Gordon Chance

04-30-1999 19:00:50




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Dead power steering on D17 Diesel in reply to Fargo, 04-30-1999 08:03:35  
Fargo: It sounds to me that you have a problem with the power steering pump. If it is the early model with the pump driven from the back of the generator, then I would remove the pump from the generator and check to see if the splines on the pump shaft have been stripped. You will also want to make sure that the generator belt is tight and not slipping. If it is the later belt driven pump then you can check to see if the drive belt is tight or broken or the drive pulley may have come loose and sheared the woodruff key in the shaft. If you don't find any problems in these areas, then you can take the pump apart to check for a sheared key in the drive gear, broken drive shaft, seized gears in the pump, or a broken relief valve spring. Let me know what you find or if you have anymore questions. Gordon

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Fargo

05-03-1999 07:24:19




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Dead power steering on D17 Diesel in reply to Gordon Chance, 04-30-1999 19:00:50  
Thanks.

Its a Series IV if that helps on the location of the pump.

I hope it is just a belt driven pump that is the problem, because all the hydraulic guts appear to be internal rather that external like most tractors.

Thanks.



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Gordon Chance

05-03-1999 19:24:56




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Dead power steering on D17 Diesel in reply to Fargo, 05-03-1999 07:24:19  
Fargo: The Series IV D17 will have a belt driven power steering pump on the right side at the front of the engine. My guess is that if this happened suddenly, then the belt is probably broken. Good luck. Gordon



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Fargo

05-04-1999 08:03:53




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Dead power steering on D17 Diesel in reply to Gordon Chance, 05-03-1999 19:24:56  
Thanks.

Sounds like an easy job if I can get some time.

MGN



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