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Model C - how safe on the hills

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Todd in SE Ohio

02-10-2004 06:53:18




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I need to hear from you fellas that have some experience on these tractors. I am ready to buy a good C, with a narrow front, to use as a work tractor, mostly to haul a small trailer for firewood and fence-mending. My property is basically a steep hill, with my house on the North side and all the trees and most of the pasture on the South side. I was ready to buy this tractor, until I started to wonder about its stability on these hills. I have been on tractors my whole life, but we always owned ones with wide front ends. What advice can you give me? Should I pass and keep looking or ???

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Dave in Mo

02-12-2004 10:15:51




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 Re: Model C - how safe on the hills in reply to Todd in SE Ohio, 02-10-2004 06:53:18  
Don't do it..... ....I have a WD that I use in the Missouri hills and it's very restrictive with what I can do with it. We use the 8N for hill work.



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Todd in SE Ohio

02-11-2004 04:17:40




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 Re: Model C - how safe on the hills in reply to Todd in SE Ohio, 02-10-2004 06:53:18  
Thanks for sharing your experiences with me. You basically told me what I already knew, it is going to be up to ME to make the tractor, any tractor, safe. Thanks for all your help.



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tinman

02-10-2004 20:22:13




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 Re: Model C - how safe on the hills in reply to Todd in SE Ohio, 02-10-2004 06:53:18  
We had a Farmall 200. We used to spread the back wheels out and use common sense. Had no problems. Just remember not to stop to much weight on a hill.



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Wsee

02-10-2004 20:07:36




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 Re: Model C - how safe on the hills in reply to Todd in SE Ohio, 02-10-2004 06:53:18  
Brother in law tipped his over backwards going up a hill,went fast too.Side stability may be better than going up hill.Too light in the front.



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JD dozer mike

02-10-2004 19:44:18




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 Re: Model C - how safe on the hills in reply to Todd in SE Ohio, 02-10-2004 06:53:18  
I Have both a Farmall c narrow front and a Ford 9n wide front. We have alot of hills here and I really like the Ford alot better. It has a much lower center of gravity and can be turned out to nearly 8 feet.I have mine turned to about 6 ft and can go on some insanely steep hills without any problems. The C on the other hand is quite tall and makes me feel a lil hairy on hills. Too even a wide front tractor will tip when going down hill at an angle, because the front axle pivots .(this is usually what gets people) Just remember you can turn any tractor over.

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moonlite

02-10-2004 19:18:33




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 Re: Model C - how safe on the hills in reply to Todd in SE Ohio, 02-10-2004 06:53:18  
I live in the hills of Missouri and have used tricicles for over 40 years. I had a C and a CA but the greatest danger I had using them in the woods they had poor brakes. They also appear to be a bit light on the front end but otherwise as safe as any tractor of similar size. I am of the opinion a larger tractor is safer.



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SteveinCT

02-10-2004 19:13:33




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 Re: Model C - how safe on the hills in reply to Todd in SE Ohio, 02-10-2004 06:53:18  
Todd, I have two B's with wide front ends in Connecticut. It's pretty hilly here and I have had some scary moments, even though I am as careful as I can be, and one of the B's has loaded tires. Both tractors have the rear tires out as far as they will go. I won't go with a narrow front end here, I wouldn't chance it. All the best!



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PeteNY

02-10-2004 18:51:43




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 Re: Model C - how safe on the hills in reply to Todd in SE Ohio, 02-10-2004 06:53:18  
Having grown up on a side hill farm using both mainly narrow front row crops, I would say that an AC C narrow is no more dangerous than a wide front, nor any less than a wide...YOU are what makes it safe or unsafe! Use your common sense and you'll be fine...when you are not a little scared is when you'll have problems! My only "incident" was with a 2N Ford...found out that 50 bales on a small running gear with NO racks is too much to hold back on my front hill!
Pete

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Mike (MA)

02-10-2004 15:21:24




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 Re: Model C - how safe on the hills in reply to Todd in SE Ohio, 02-10-2004 06:53:18  
I use my narrow front C quite often to haul things around (trailer and such) the yard which has quite a few steep slopes. I've driven the tractor sideways across the hills but have always felt a little nervous about it but haven't had any actual stability issues with the tractor. As a personal choice, I've chosen routes that allow me to traverse the hill top to bottom (or vice versa) with no lateral movement.

Mike

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john

02-10-2004 11:57:22




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 Re: Model C - how safe on the hills in reply to Todd in SE Ohio, 02-10-2004 06:53:18  
i have a c with a mounted sickle mower on it that i use around the farm, mostly flat ground. i have not had any problems but i would rather have a wide front end for driving on hill sides. i would believe it would be more stable.



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MartinKY

02-12-2004 16:23:29




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 Re: Re: Model C - how safe on the hills in reply to john, 02-10-2004 11:57:22  
Maybe we should outlaw tractors....it is the person setting in the seat that make the equipment safe of unsafe....Pete stated it really well...the center of gravity is what makes the tractor stable....think about it...a wide front end still has a pivot point on the wide axle...it it starts to roll it is going over....you gotta use the gray matter between your ears to be safe...I mow a hillside that is really steep going across it....I have the rear wheels out a far a possible this lowering my center of gravity...if the wheels were narrowed it would roll....just my $.02 worth....

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