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Buying an AC WD need some info

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PETE

01-30-2004 15:10:12




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Hey folks anyone here that could possibly give me some advice on what to look for. The tractor im going to look at is an AC WD believed to be late thirty's model. I know the guy who has it and trust that he would not be shafting me. The paint is faded but not rusted all up, motor runs strong and mag has been rebuilt. Do know tractor needs new battery cables and battery asking price is 800.00 any advice of what to look for as far as mechanical issues would be greatly appreciated. I plan to use tractor and know that these tractors did not have 3 pt hitch but that does'nt matter as of now as this can be fixed. Thanks in advance for any help.

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Robert

01-30-2004 17:00:41




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 Re: Buying an AC WD need some info in reply to PETE , 01-30-2004 15:10:12  
Pete. I have an original operators instructions and repair parts illustrations book for the Allis Chalmers WD for sale. Let me know if it is of any interest to you. Robert.



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Dave R (MN)

01-30-2004 16:57:53




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 Re: Buying an AC WD need some info in reply to PETE , 01-30-2004 15:10:12  
One of the first things I look at on a WD is how wore the clutch pedal and the hand clutch lever are. I've seen the hand clutch lever so wore out that when you move it sideways it will bang on the fender. It can just give you some indication as to how much use it has seen.



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bryan g in mo

01-30-2004 16:18:12




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 Re: Buying an AC WD need some info in reply to PETE , 01-30-2004 15:10:12  
WD's were made from 1948-1953 if runs and drives good , if it is a WD and has a straight shifter fo the trans, a little gear noise in some gears will be normal , but if it looks decent and runs and drives good I would buy it in a heartbeat, oh yeah you should be "confortable" with the purchase.



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Dave K (FL)

01-30-2004 15:45:04




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 Re: Buying an AC WD need some info in reply to PETE , 01-30-2004 15:10:12  
First of all, the WD was first sold in 1948. If yours is earlier than that it's a WC and a whole different tractor. Assuming yours is a WD I will base some tips on the WD. Drive it, make sure it stays in gear under load and with the load pushing the tractor. It is common to have shifter wear and they won't stay in gear but not difficult to fix. Check all the lube oils for signs of water (foaming, milky color etc. When the rubber boots on the shifter deterioate and the tractor is out in the rain or snow water will get in the tranny. Not good in winter if it freezes, like cracked tranny or, at minimum tractor, won't move. Check BOTH clutches to be certain neither is slipping under load. The hand clutch, when released, will allow the tractor to creep a little, in particular when the tranny oil is cold. This clutch runs in oil. Run her down the road full throttle in 4th and see what the front wheel wobble is like, this is common but not difficult to fix (on the row crop tricycle anyway.) Never did a wide front. See if you have oil pressure at least 1/3 way up on the gage or near center. (These tractors do not show much pressure on gage but if the wrong oil filter is used they may show none or very low.) See if the power take off shaft runs okay (stripped drive gears occur with overloads, usually bush hog use.) Check out the hydraulics, there are three settings on the selector valve, be sure the adjustments on the valve move, although this is not a difficult fix. Look for leaks, overheating under load, fuel feed and leaks, rust in fuel tank. None of these simple things would keep me from buying except a busted tranny caseing. The thing is you kind of get an idea how much investment you will have to make. $800 for a WD is a fair price. You will be very pleased with this tractor. There is not much it can't do and we farmed 200 acres for a family dairy for many years with a WD. If, in fact, it is a WC a quick check is the brakes. If it has hand brake levers on each fender, it is not a WD. If it has two clutches and foot brakes it probably is a WD (or some other model of the same time frame)Oh yeah, WD's originally did not have the snap coupler hitch, many were converted. Much better than todays 3-pt but you need snap coupler implements (as far as I know), Look for the drawbar to attach to the tractor through a bell shaped housing with a big spring loaded hook. By all means get the manuals for it!! If you need more or more help for a WD just e-mail me.

Dave

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JAMES (FL)

01-30-2004 16:24:13




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 Re: Re: Buying an AC WD need some info in reply to Dave K (FL), 01-30-2004 15:45:04  
PETE:

All that Dave said, and more, is true. If this is your first tractor please take the time to check it out, several trips is best. I recently bought my first project, a 53 CA, which was sold as a 51. Anyway, I made numerous trips to look over the tractor, I have some knowlege of mechanics but I missed probably what most buyers would see first, a busted motor. My mistake. I have been told by an expert welder that he can weld the crack and it will be good as new. I can't stress enough don't get emotionaly attached to the tractor before you but it. There will be plenty of time to fall in love later. Check it out, if possible have a knowlegeable friend go with you and do his own investigation. Perhaps the person I bougth the CA from knew of the crack in the block, perhaps he didn't. But the truth is I should have looked closer. DON'T GET BUSTED!

JAMES (FL)

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