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Rocky Mtn. Allis

01-16-2004 12:37:48




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I need an education on D 14's.

1) Are they rare?
2) Are they collectible?
3) Are parts readily available?
4) Would a D-14 with propane and a single front put it in the category of rare?




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Rocky Mtn. Allisn

01-17-2004 14:04:21




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 Re: Allis D 14 in reply to Rocky Mtn. Allis, 01-16-2004 12:37:48  
Dear Bruce/Scott/Steve,

Thankyou for your quick response. I am always amazed at the amount of good information there is available in the airwaves. How did you know, for instance, how many D-14's were propane powered and how many had SFW?

What is the address for Unofficial Allis?

Now for thew big question: How much should one pay for such a unit, given that it is probably rare? Oh, by the way, the engine is stuck and I have to drive a couple of thousand miles each way to pick it up. (My problem, not yours!)

Thanks. Rocky

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steve

01-17-2004 17:41:03




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 Re: Re: Allis D 14 in reply to Rocky Mtn. Allisn, 01-17-2004 14:04:21  
thats a tough one Rocky. the price realy depends on how bad you want it and how bad the guy wants to sell it. i know many guys who have paid 50% more than what a tractor is "worth" because that is the tractor they want. i have done it myself. a locked up D14 is probably about $1000. since it is the LP and single wheel, maybe a few more dollars. you need to know if the rims are shot, tires weather cracked or usable, etc. MOst of the guys on this site will tell you they have $2000 to $4000 invested in their pride and joy. go to sell them and you might get $2000- 2500. this is not a hobby to make money. i personally would not go 1000 miles for a D14, but then i dont want one. if i had some special desire to have a LP 14 i would get it , no mattter what, fix it up, and be happy with a "new tractor" that would last another 50 years.

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bruce

01-17-2004 09:33:48




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 Re: Allis D 14 in reply to Rocky Mtn. Allis, 01-16-2004 12:37:48  
The D17 and D14/15 were made from 57-68. In 1960, the D17 went to series II, the D14 changed designation to D15. According to the original production numbers, there were 41,000 D14/15's made - roughly half were D14's. There were around 800 LPG's, mostly all were D14's. Of the D14's, only 54 were SFW (single front wheel) originally, so that is definately rare. There is no data on how many had the combination of SFW and propane, if any. A SFW, dual narrow, or adjustable wide could could be interchanged between tractors.

Allis collecting is growing. I think Unofficial Allis web site gets 1M hits a year. However, you don't pay a premium like JD's or Ford 8N's. For a D14, usefullness still rivals collectability. I do everything on my small acreage with my '57 D14, including run a baler. Parts are not a problem. If you hang out here or Unofficial Allis, you will get connected to lots of people with parts.

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Scott(MO)

01-17-2004 05:30:00




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 Re: Allis D 14 in reply to Rocky Mtn. Allis, 01-16-2004 12:37:48  
The D14 is by no means rare. It's not near as common as the D17 , but there are still plenty out there. However , a D14 with propane and single front might be a little different animal! I don't believe I've ever seen one. That might make a pretty good project. As far as parts go , most parts are still available through Agco (mechanical parts that is and not sheetmetal items). Although , a few years ago I was asked to work on a D14 for somebody. A shaft had walked out of the carrier unit (ring gear unit) and busted in half. I went to Agco and they told me it was obsolete. So, I ended up turning my own and heat treating it myself. So there might be some things you can't find. There might be some parts associated with the propane that might be a little hard to find , but I'm not familiar with the different parts on a propane model as compared to gasoline ( I should , when I was a kid all of our cars and trucks run off propane. Dad was a plant manager of a LP plant). Anyway, sounds to me like you have stumbled on to a neat project that would look neat at your local old threshers show. Sorry for the rambling!

Scott

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steve

01-16-2004 14:59:44




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 Re: Allis D 14 in reply to Rocky Mtn. Allis, 01-16-2004 12:37:48  
i am by no means a expert, but can tell you the following.
--D14 was the first of the D series
--built about 1958-62???
--most parts available, fenders and sheetmetal a little difficult to find.
--Bigger and a little more costly than a CA
--D15, D12 and D10 are much more sought after than a 14
-- an "good" D15 might bring $3500, the same condition D14 might be $2500
--single front and propane would certainly be more rare.

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