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Alternator for Model C

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Mike

12-27-2003 17:06:20




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I am restoring a Model C which has been converted to a 12V system, but had no generator or alternator. I wish to keep the 12V system and I assume I should use an alternator, but I have no idea what type of alternator to use. Can anyone out there help?

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bryan

12-28-2003 18:17:55




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 Re: Alternator for Model C in reply to Mike, 12-27-2003 17:06:20  
you can put a alternator on that tractor ,but if it is a narrow front tractor a internal regulated alternator for a GM veihcle is too big in diameter to clear the steering rod.



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Tim in NY

12-28-2003 11:13:19




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 Re: Alternator for Model C in reply to Mike, 12-27-2003 17:06:20  
Mike, I have had several stock generators for all my AC tractors rebuilt by a local starter/generator shop to 12 volt.They work well,and this way the appearance remains stock. Just thought I'd offer this as another option.



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Rod (NH)

12-27-2003 18:55:37




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 Re: Alternator for Model C in reply to Mike, 12-27-2003 17:06:20  
Hi Mike,

I used a Delco 10SI internally regulated alternator on my '42 B. The 63 amp version from NAPA is NAPA#213-4011. It is a three wire alternator. They are real easy to wire up. I decided on the three wire version because I had read that those begin generating at a lower speed than the one wire version. That is important with the low engine speed of a B (or C). You will need a pigtail lead with plug if you go with the three wire style. The NAPA part number for that is Echlin#VRC148. The alternator comes without a drive pulley. Since you do not have a stock generator to steal the pulley off of (that's what I did) you can get a special small diameter pulley designed for the standard 5/8" wide v-belt that will fit directly onto the 10SI. That is available from parrautomotive.com. Do a search of their on-line catalog under the brand "Vintique". The Vintique part # is VIN-A-10130-ALT ($17.50+ship).

I custom fabricated the mounting brackets but I understand you can purchase them ready made from Steve at B&B Custom Circuits. I suspect he will be by sooner or later and offer some input also. I had to use a one inch longer v-belt than used for the original generator. I wound up using a NAPA 5L380W.

Here's what my B looks like after installing the 10SI. It works great and I am very pleased with it. I should have done it years ago:
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steve

12-27-2003 17:18:17




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 Re: Alternator for Model C in reply to Mike, 12-27-2003 17:06:20  
any alternator will work. pick one with an internal voltage regulator and you can eliminate the external black box and much wiring. most people choose the delco 10SI which was used on all Chevy/Pontiac cars from 1975-1985. You can get one at NAPA or AUTO ZONE for about $40. the newer delco from the 1990s, or a honda or mitsibuishi are about 1 inch smaller and look nice also, but normally more expensive to get. might check e-bay or local junk yard. most of these need 1 or two wires to function. pretty simple. pick one and we can give you a print.

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old

12-27-2003 17:15:42




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 Re: Alternator for Model C in reply to Mike, 12-27-2003 17:06:20  
I'd put a delco one wire one it easy to wire up and not to hard to find cost is around $65 for one



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