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carl from nebra

12-15-2003 15:37:02




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Found a good-lookin WD45 in the trees. Been quiet for 4 to 5 years. Put a pipe wrench to the front crank rod but no motion. Got a tip as to the best method for breaking her free or at least checking for terminal stuck?




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Dave K (FL)

12-22-2003 13:47:44




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 Re: stuck in nebraska in reply to carl from nebraska , 12-15-2003 15:37:02  
I, myself, am against the clutch popping routine. Too easy to bend valves, break piston rings, break a rod etc. If she is stuck hard there is gonna be rust in there, maybe water, all sorts of things. The least you should do is hone the cyls. I get it home and pull the head first and see what I can see. If that does not help I pull the pan.

Dave



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carl from nebraska

12-23-2003 16:11:09




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 Re: Re: stuck in nebraska in reply to Dave K (FL), 12-22-2003 13:47:44  
thanks for the info Dave. Can you tell me anything about my luck in trying to pipe-wrench the hand crank to loosen as have not purchased WD-45 and don't want to pull head on someone else's tractor.



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Scott

12-15-2003 16:03:13




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 Re: stuck in nebraska in reply to carl from nebraska , 12-15-2003 15:37:02  
Hi Carl,
Well I have a suggestion that worked for me on a WC that had been stuck for 10+yrs. I filled the cylinders with a mixture of Diesel Fuel and PB Blaster and put the old sparkplugs back in. Then I put the tractor in 4th gear and every time I walked by the tractor I would grab a back tire and rock the tractor until I was tired. Then I would go do something else and then when I came near the tractor I would give her another try. I did that for 2 weeks, after that I decided to try the "pull and pop" the clutch routine with the sparkplugs out, and attached a snap strap to the front of the Allis and with my brother in the seat of the allis and it sitting in 4th gear, I pulled the tractor using my 9N in 1st gear. We went up and down the driveway about 6 times and then on the 6th attempt the engine broke free.(Hint: Make sure nothing is on the sparkplug side that you don't mind Diesel fuel on when the engine breaks free). Then I performed a compression check by hand cranking the engine over with the sparkplugs out to lessen the work load and tested each cylinder. She had good compression, so I changed the oil, filter and put a new carb kit in her, in went fresh gas, installed new points, condensor, cap, rotor, sparkplugs, tested continuity of the sparkplug wires and soldered both ends of each wire, set the timing, and the old girl fired on the 3rd pull, but blew the 1 cylinder out of the exhaust manifold and it was raining rust for 2 hours :)
Sorry, I put more in than what was asked for, but that is how it happened for me. Hope you have success like I did!! If you have any questions I will do my best to answer them.

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old

12-15-2003 17:23:56




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 Re: Re: stuck in nebraska in reply to Scott, 12-15-2003 16:03:13  
I use turpentine its worked on every engine I've put it in so far. But if Iknow I'm not going to work on it far awhile I fill the cylinder with oil, did that on an old JD-B and when I got around to working on it put turpentine inthe cylinders and it was loose 2 hours later



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