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WD-45 brakes

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frank roelke

10-18-2003 16:47:42




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Reading all the posts on these stinking brakes, I have my holes drilled, pins starting to move. The blasted brakes shoes are stuck to the pins. Any suggestions?




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Smitty

10-20-2003 00:10:32




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 Re: WD-45 brakes in reply to frank roelke, 10-18-2003 16:47:42  
Not sure what you mean by "holes drilled", I assume you mean drilling the end of the pin to tap it and use a bolt and spacer as a puller. When you say "pins starting to move" do you mean move as in outward as with a puller?

To brake the pins loose from the shoes it would be necessary to rotate the pin. Can you get a pair of vice grips, channel locks, or even a small pipe wrench on the end of the pin to rotate it? If not, can you pull the pin enough to get a tool on the end of it to rotate it?

If not, I would think that by continueing to pull it, you could force the shoes to break loose from the pin. Once the metal stamping of the first shoe contacts the casting of the axle housing, if you continue to pull, I would think it would break the shoes loose. I can't remember how much room there is between the side of the metal stamping of the shoe and the axle housing. If it's close, you may be able to just continue to pull, if there is a lot of room, continueing to pull may result in bent tabs on the end of the metal shoe stamping. I guess the biggest danger here is in bending the metal stamping of the shoes. I'd try to rotate the pins before resorting to using a puller to break the shoes loose.

Good luck, let us know how it turns out. I didn't have nearly the problems when I did mine, but I've recently bought a second WD (45), so I may soon be faced with the same dilema.

Good Day!

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JMS/MN

10-21-2003 00:06:03




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 Re: Re: WD-45 brakes in reply to Smitty, 10-20-2003 00:10:32  
Another option to move the pins is to drill a 3/4 inch hole in flat iron and weld it to the pin. Then you have a handle to 'lean' on, and the heat of welding often loosens the pin.



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frank Roelke

10-21-2003 18:43:13




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 Re: Re: Re: WD-45 brakes in reply to JMS/MN, 10-21-2003 00:06:03  
You guys helped alot. All apart and being sandblasted. New pieces from Sandy Lake on the way. Thanks

Here's another one for you. The Hydraulics on my tractor work well, but not much umph. Would never pick up the front wheels with a heavy load. I have a homestyle 3pt. Any thoughts?



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wdTom

10-18-2003 19:10:06




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 Re: WD-45 brakes in reply to frank roelke, 10-18-2003 16:47:42  
Well I think you have done the hardest part of the job and had succes. THEY MOVE!! Now as for the shoes, what about getting the adjust bolts out of the back, the top adjustment loose and trying to move the shoe back and forth, I mean move the top of the shoe front and back to break it loose on the pin. With some oil on the pin and doing this, even if the shoe only moves a slight amount I think you will get them moving. Possibly prying through the hole at the bottom may help too. Glad to hear you were succesfull on phase one.

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Travis

10-18-2003 18:35:55




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 Re: WD-45 brakes in reply to frank roelke, 10-18-2003 16:47:42  
Maybe not a suggestion as much as some advice...If you decide to spray the pins down with penetrating oil or the like DO NOT, and I repeat DO NOT then decide that the torch will be a good idea to loosen the pins. I think all the hair just got through growing back on my eyebrows just last month! Sure wasn't using "the ol' noggin'" that day.



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