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'51 A/C trike

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09-22-2003 17:47:47

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I just saw an add for a 51 AC trike in the next city. Was thinking about going to take a look at it this weekend.. but am not familair in any way with the AC's... any ideas as to what model(s) AC had in 51... that way I have a ballpark idea of what I might be going to see?

Thanks guys


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John (C-IL)

09-22-2003 18:34:48

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 Re: '51 A/C trike in reply to souNdguy, 09-22-2003 17:47:47  
If it is a 1951 and a narrow front you are pretty much limited to a C, CA, or a WD. John

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09-23-2003 05:18:25

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 Re: Re: '51 A/C trike in reply to John (C-IL), 09-22-2003 18:34:48  

( That is why i love this site -ytmag-.. so many experienced people).

That is exactly what I needed to know... now I can go look up pics of these models and at least have some idea of what I'll be looking at.

One more thing... are these models good units? any specific deficincies I need to watch out for.
This tractor wouldn't be a work tractor.. just something to refurb, and drive around the pasture for pleasure... or possible the occasional very light job of pulling a pasture drag.. or a small wagon in the pasture with feed in it.

I have a modern tractor for the heavy work... but just love this old iron. I've refurbed a ford 8n, and NAA, and a pretty cherry IH cub.. now I gotta have an orange tractor ( not kubota.. ) maybe a green one next...

thanks again


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09-24-2003 18:53:50

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 Re: Re: Re: '51 A/C trike in reply to souNdguy, 09-23-2003 05:18:25  
Since you sound experienced I will only add that on ACs you need to watch out for the shift lever boot. If it is gone or cracked rain and snow can get down into the transmission and over time really build up. If it works and sounds ok it probably is even with water in there, but you might want to check or change oil here soon if the boot is in rough shape. Especially if you have hydraulics.

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09-25-2003 04:35:26

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 Re: Re: Re: Re: '51 A/C trike in reply to wdTom, 09-24-2003 18:53:50  
Fords are real bad about that too.. The 9/2/8N's have a common sump holding 5 gallons of oil for the hydraulics, final drives, and tranny... and the same thing happens.. if water gets in thru the shifter boot.. it can lead to all sorts of problems down the line..

Thanks for the info guys.


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09-23-2003 15:09:35

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 Re: Re: Re: '51 A/C trike in reply to souNdguy, 09-23-2003 05:18:25  
the CA should have 24 inch rear rims and a torque tube supporting the transmission to motor clutch housing. The WD or 45 would have 28 inch rear wheels and a c-channel down each side of the tractor as a frame from the rear axle to the radiator.

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09-23-2003 09:37:48

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 Re: Re: Re: '51 A/C trike in reply to souNdguy, 09-23-2003 05:18:25  
Hello souNdguy!

You helped me with a question I had about 8N steering wobble.

As to you question about deficincies, the CA has a hand clutch that stops motion but not PTO (quite useful), the clutch can be siezed or slipping and they can get a little exppensive to fix. Not really a deficincy but an added cost at the least.

That being said I would choose a CA over the other models, nice little tractor and the hand clutch is kinda cool.

Good luck and stop back and tell us what you got.

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09-23-2003 10:48:13

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 Re: Re: Re: Re: '51 A/C trike in reply to Trevor, 09-23-2003 09:37:48  
It is only about a 30 minute drive to the next city over.. so since I don't have to work friday AM.. I may drive over.. if I like it I'll leave a deposit and come back for it saturday.

Normally I would just hitch my trailer and take it 'just in case' but then I would have to leave from there and go to work with tht trailer and tractor in tow.... not too much room in our cramped parking lot for my tandem axle trailer and my full size dodge... so....

Anyway.. if I do get it, I'll take the camera with me on friday and snap some mug shots.

I've received tenative approval from the 'treasurer'.. which actually scares me a bit... but I'm not one to look a gift ..errr... well you get the picture..


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09-23-2003 08:29:17

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 Re: Re: Re: '51 A/C trike in reply to souNdguy, 09-23-2003 05:18:25  
For some reason the weak spot on these tractors is usually the transmission gear that got used or abused the most, generally 2nd or 3rd gear. It will pop out when you back off on driveline pressure, like going down hill. Other than than that the engines are very powerful for their size and the pulling power is limited by the weight of the tractor.

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