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D17 Brakes, Hard to replace?

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Larry

09-19-2003 20:18:29




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How tough is it to put new brake shoes on a 58 d17 (series 1). I've not quite figured out how to do it.




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jcmarleau

09-30-2003 19:07:59




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 Re: D17 Brakes, Hard to replace? in reply to Larry, 09-19-2003 20:18:29  
have service manual for this model my e mail is [email protected]



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Larry

09-20-2003 03:28:49




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 Re: D17 Brakes, Hard to replace? in reply to Larry, 09-19-2003 20:18:29  
I'm in the process of putting them on my D17 right now, first time I've done it. Here's what I've found so far. Pulling the pins at the bottom is apparently the hardest part can't really use a puller, and I didn't want to pull the whole axle apart, so I took a 1/2" nut and welded it to the end of the pin, then took 1/2" all thread and I piece of 1" pipe, this let me pull straight on the pin. Worked fairly well, on each side I pulled the nut off twice and had to weld it back on, but once I got it moving, I'd spray it with WD40 and drive it back in and after a few times I took a pipe wrench and got the pin freed up, pulled right out then. Removing the shoes. You'll need to unhook the rods, had trouble here, even with lots of WD40 they were TOUGH, ended up twisting one off, I'll have to run to town and buy some 3/8ths rod and make one this morning. Once the rods are out, remove the 1/2 nut at the top, and then you'll pull the part the rod goes into first, then the front shoe and then the back shoe, this is kind of hard but it works. I've got the old shoes off and new ones riveted on, no big deal there. Its a matter of making up a new rod and pulling the pins to put on new springs now. This is as far as I've got, I'll let you know how it goes from here. I agree with the other guy about the book, however, there is really nothing more in the book behond what I've told you here. The book did straighte me out on one thing, I was trying to remove the front shoe along with the activator, and that wouldn't work, so the book was definately worth it in that respect. I've read on here where you could drill a hole in the pin and then thread it and tap it and pull it that way, I tried that, but the pin seemed to be way to hard for me to get to drill. I gave up on that, and ended up welding the nut on, which was basically no big deal. Anyway, it sure beat pulling the whole thing apart, I'm kind of wondering how hard it will be to get everything lined up, going back together, but I'll find out this morning. Good Luck with yours.

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JMS/MN

09-21-2003 13:33:58




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 Re: Re: D17 Brakes, Hard to replace? in reply to Larry, 09-20-2003 03:28:49  
I know that some drill and tap the pin, but that gives little surface contact area. I just take a pice of 1/4 inch flat iron, drill a 3/4 inch hole in it and slip it over the pin, then weld it. Makes a good handle to crank with, and the heat of welding helps to loosen the pin.



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JMS/MN

09-19-2003 22:11:47




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 Re: D17 Brakes, Hard to replace? in reply to Larry, 09-19-2003 20:18:29  
I think it is very similar to the WD45- no big deal. Later Series are more complicated, with the drum and disc set up, which requires axle removal. Gewt the SERVICE manual for the job.



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