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Looking for a nice AC 170

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Rick Kimball

09-16-2003 15:01:38




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I am hoping to buy me an AC 170 this weekend at an auction. If I miss out I will be looking for a 170, 175, or any 100 series. I want a loader on it eventually or will buy it that way. Western Minnesota




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Rick Kimball

09-17-2003 06:46:00




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 Re: Looking for a nice AC 170 in reply to Rick Kimball, 09-16-2003 15:01:38  
I have also found a D17 with an AC 17 loader. How does this compare to a 170. Will that loader be a hydraulic 2 way or a trip bucket?
I have been scouring the site and can't find a picture of a D17 yet. Is the HP comparable.
Any info on either tractor is much appreciated.



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Aaron

09-17-2003 07:03:44




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 Re: Re: Looking for a nice AC 170 in reply to Rick Kimball, 09-17-2003 06:46:00  
Rick,
First here is the phone# for Rudolph's in St.Cloud. (I think it may actually be listed for a city on the East side of St.cloud, like Sauk Center?) Anyway 320-252-2010
Second. I also own a D-17, and it is a good tractor, depending on what you want to do. The biggest drawback between the d-17 and 170 is that a d-17 doesn't have a 3pt. hitch, unless you get a series 4 d-17, and they are the same price as a 170 anyway. The 170 is a more comfortable tractor to sit on all day, mine has dual two-way hydralics, where as my d-17 only has a single one-way line. I think your biggest concern should be the 3pt hitch. I use mine every day in the winter to feed cattle round bales of hay, so a solid 3pt is a must, and the 170's is built very heavy. Even heavier than my 4020 Deere. I also guess what you want to pay comes into play. A good 170 and loader will run you $6500+ where as a d-17 can be found in the $3500 range. Hope this helps.

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Eldon (WA)

09-16-2003 19:14:33




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 Re: Looking for a nice AC 170 in reply to Rick Kimball, 09-16-2003 15:01:38  

There are a couple for sale out here.....I have a '73 'black stripe' for sale, and there is one in Walla Walla, WA with a 500 loader at a dealer for $9950! I posted pcs of both over on the Unoffici*l AC archives



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Aaron

09-16-2003 18:49:56




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 Re: Looking for a nice AC 170 in reply to Rick Kimball, 09-16-2003 15:01:38  
Rick,
I have not seen the tractor myself, but I was told there was a nice 170 gas with a loader for sale at Rudolph Implement in St. Cloud MN. This is a John Deere dealer. I think you would really like this series AC tractor. I have a 170 gas and use it 365 days a year. Just a pleasure to operate. I hope you have good luck in finding yourself a tractor.



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Rick Kimball

09-17-2003 05:24:25




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 Re: Re: Looking for a nice AC 170 in reply to Aaron, 09-16-2003 18:49:56  
Thanks for the info guys. I have one spotted at an auction this Saturday 30 miles away. I am hoping this will be my day. Bad thing is it has a trip bucket loader. I know of a 185 with a 500 loader selling the following weekend. What HP is the 185? I would rather have gas but I like what I have learned about this tractor.
Thanks again!



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DuaneWKKC

09-17-2003 05:40:41




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 Re: Re: Re: Looking for a nice AC 170 in reply to Rick Kimball, 09-17-2003 05:24:25  
Rick, If you are using the loader for barn work I really think you would like the 170/175 tractor better as they have the oil bath hand clutch. We have owned a 175 since 1974 that was delivered with the 500 loader. Have yet to replace the clutch in that tractor ( did have the hand clutch adjusted once ). The two speed in the 185 is in either High or Low, no nuetral, and is free wheeling in low range. the 185 is a very nice field tractor, the 170/175 is a very nice utility tractor. The 185 is about 70 -74 horse, not sure exactly. Good luck at the sale.

Duane W.

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Rick Kimball

09-17-2003 05:55:06




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Looking for a nice AC 170 in reply to DuaneWKKC, 09-17-2003 05:40:41  
Duane,
Thanks for the tip. Thats a big difference. Your right the 170 is what I need. Now I just have to find one. Aaron, I cannot find a number for Rudolph Implement in St. Cloud Minnesota. Can you help me out with a number?
Thanks again guys. I have learned a lot on this board and will be a regular if I can aquire me a AC 170 or 175



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Marc Heffern

09-22-2003 19:25:36




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Looking for a nice AC 170 in reply to Rick Kimball, 09-17-2003 05:55:06  
Rick, I have a 170 with full hydraulic loader. I put new tires all the way around two years ago. The tractor is in excellent shape and I would consider selling it. I live in Decorah, IA. which is approx 4 hours from you. It's really more tractor than I need but does come in very handy. The only thing that doesn't is the temp gauge and tach(disconected due to different alt.)I have a hobby farm and use the tractor maybe twice a week. I can sent pics if you like.

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Rick Kimball

09-18-2003 10:02:34




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Looking for a nice AC 170 in reply to Rick Kimball, 09-17-2003 05:55:06  
Aaron,
They sold the one in St Cloud. The guy didn't know what they got.
I went and looked at the one being sold Saturday in a sale. Its nice and purred when I started it. Bad thing is it has a Freman trip bucket loader. Will this tractor take a 2 way loader with a hydraulic bucket? They also have a model 72 MeKee snowblower, dbl auger, 8' width. He used it with this tractor but seems a little big for it. What would be a good used loader for this and how much do you think I would have to spend. They also are selling the fast hitch seperate. What is that worth.
Thanks

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Aaron

09-19-2003 06:25:11




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Looking for a nice AC 170 in reply to Rick Kimball, 09-18-2003 10:02:34  
Rick,
I think you will want to get a hydralic tip bucket, but not one built by AC. I have one for mine, but I really don't like it. It is made by Allis Chalmers. It isn't built very good at all. I hardly ever even have it on the tractor. (I use the skid steer 98% of the time)I would recomend an Allied loader. I have one on my Case tractor, and it is really built well. Also Westendorf and Bush Hog seem to be decent loaders. As far as the power to run the snowblower, it will run that tractor to it's knees if you drop it down all the way and start cutting 3 foot drifts. I have 7ft dual auger blower. If there is a 10 inch snow, now problem. Slap it down and go. When dealing with deep drifts, I make two passes in the same spot. Leave the blower up about 10 inches, then run over it a second time with it down all the way. It works for me, so I think it would for you. As far as price, If the tractor has good rubber, as fair price would be $4500-$6500. I wouldn't consider the loader as any value. You may get $400. to resell it. The blower, if in nice shape you can expect anywhere from $750-$1800. This is the time of year where snow removal items go high. Hope this helps some, and let us know when you get your tractor!

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Wally G.

09-18-2003 16:29:23




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Looking for a nice AC 170 in reply to Rick Kimball, 09-18-2003 10:02:34  
Don't worry about it running that snowblower, just hope the blower can handle the tractor. You can look around for the 460 or 500 loader and either one can have the hydraulic bucket. DON'T settle for a trip bucket, they aren't much better than a shovel. Hope you find a good one, make sure the trans isn't noisey and doesn't jump out of gear. The 170 has either the 226 gas engine or the 236 Perkins diesel which is a ggreat little engine. I am pretty sure the 175 only came with a diesel engine.

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