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a clunking noise in the left rear tire of the litt

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dave of southwest michiga

08-05-2003 11:30:35




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Hey y'all that wrote to me a week ago about the "clunking" noise.

Had a chance yesterday to investigate, and did find that once I got the wheel off the tractor, the rim bolts were loose and had caused the rim to shift slightly on the wheel. Once I reset the eccentric bolts and tightened everything up nice and snug, the clunking went away.

I didn't have the time to pull the pans, check the gears in the final drive and replace the oil. (I promise to do this this winter when there will be more time), but there didn't seem to be any play in the bearings or any excessive endplay in the gears, so I'm just convinced that the problem lay in the rim/wheel bolts.

Thanks again to all who wrote. Linda of New York, hope this answers your question. Write to me for further details on what I did if you want.

Well, guess I'd better get back out there. Thanks again, y'all. Dave

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Linda (NY)

08-05-2003 16:05:50




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 Re: a clunking noise in the left rear tire of the in reply to dave of southwest michiga, 08-05-2003 11:30:35  
Thanks for info, Dave. BUT I don't know nuthin' 'bout tractors. When you say you took the wheel off do you mean you removed the several bolts or nuts in the center of the wheel and then checked the four bolts or nuts that fasten this to the rim? Kinda stupid I guess, but you know us helpless gals.
Linda (NY)



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dave of southwest michiga

08-11-2003 18:16:41




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 Re: Re: a clunking noise in the left rear tire of in reply to Linda (NY), 08-05-2003 16:05:50  
hey linda, just checkin' to see if you got the clunking fixed in your tractor?



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Linda(NY)

08-20-2003 07:24:47




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 Re: Re: Re: a clunking noise in the left rear tire in reply to dave of southwest michiga, 08-11-2003 18:16:41  
Hi Dave:
Sorry I took so long to respond, but work called---you know how that is.
Anyway, the "clunking noise" was indeed a loose wheel, but I had quite a time tightening it up since my rims were very worn and beat-up. Finally I had to make shims to place between clamp and rim so that I could get rim tight. But everything is ok now. Thanks.
Linda(NY)



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dave of southwest michiga

08-20-2003 19:46:07




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: a clunking noise in the left rear in reply to Linda(NY), 08-20-2003 07:24:47  
Hi Linda,

I sure do understand about "work calling"! :)

Really glad to hear that you found the problem. And it sounds like you came up with a good solution too! That's great!

Well....guess I'll mosey along for now. Thanks for letting me know. Take care,

dave



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Rob (OH)

08-06-2003 06:07:30




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 Re: Re: a clunking noise in the left rear tire of in reply to Linda (NY), 08-05-2003 16:05:50  
Dave, I thought that might have been the problem. Mine
did the exact same thing when we got it together. Gene the guy that did almos the entire restoration knew what to do and had it fixed in
a minute. BTW, I hope Nancy is doing better.

Rob



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dave of southwest michiga

08-06-2003 05:33:23




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 Re: Re: a clunking noise in the left rear tire of in reply to Linda (NY), 08-05-2003 16:05:50  
Hey Linda, Sorry for the grammatical errors. I tried "editing" but it wouldn't let me do it. Guess the message got too long. Anyway, if there's a question, hollar! Dave



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Linda(NY)

08-06-2003 06:54:38




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 Re: Re: Re: a clunking noise in the left rear tire in reply to dave of southwest michiga, 08-06-2003 05:33:23  
Thanks, Dave. With you I woun't need a service manual. You should put all of the info you have gleaned into a manual for us "tractor uneducated" and offer it through your bookstore.
Another reply suggested a way without removing the wheel which sounds practical for me since I doubt I could handle removing the wheel. Will probably try that first and will let you know if it succeeds.
Linda(NY)

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Trevor

08-06-2003 06:39:28




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 Re: Re: Re: a clunking noise in the left rear tire in reply to dave of southwest michiga, 08-06-2003 05:33:23  
Dave,

You did a great job of writing those instructions.

We had the same problem with our CA. You should mention that you DON'T HAVE TO remove the wheel to tighten the rim. You can just tighten it by rolling the tractor ahead and back.



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dave of southwest michiga

08-07-2003 05:01:19




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: a clunking noise in the left rear in reply to Trevor, 08-06-2003 06:39:28  
Hi Trevor.....Hi Linda....

I do like Trevor's idea about not having to remove the wheel. It is safer (remember always!!! safety first!!) and will get the job done.

I was taking the wheel off, because I wanted to check to see if there was a possibility of there being a problem with the final drives, and I had never encountered any of these problems before, so it was a double-check, but I most certainly agree that tightening the bolts without removing the wheel is the safest way to go!

Let me know how it works out.

Dave

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Linda (NY)

08-06-2003 06:47:24




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: a clunking noise in the left rear in reply to Trevor, 08-06-2003 06:39:28  
Hey Trevor- Please tell me more about your way to tighten the wheel on the rim without removing the wheel. It sounds a bit easier for me since I doubt I could handle removing and lifting the entire wheel with tire.
Linda(NY)



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Trevor

08-06-2003 10:37:27




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: a clunking noise in the left r in reply to Linda (NY), 08-06-2003 06:47:24  
Hi Linda (NY),

Well Dave's instructions are very good and you can basically use his. But to avoid taking the wheel off all you have to do is, after losening the nuts you position the three "clamping bolts" so that 2 are at 10 o'clock and 2 o'clock and the other is at 6. Now rotate the two top clamping bolts so that they are snug against the rim. Roll the tractor ahead so that the one on the bottom is now on the top and snug it against the rim. Now I would repeat this part of the procedure a few times to make sure you have them as tight as you can. After that tighen all the nuts back up tight and shake the tractor to see if you can feel/hear any slop in the rim.

If not then take the tractor for a short drive (the best part) and make sure that you haven't made the tire out of center to much. After the drive re tighten the nuts to make sure every thing is going to stay.

Not to hard. Once you start playing with them it will make more sense and you will quickly see what you have to do.

Just removing the out rim is how Allis expected you to change the tires not by removing the center disk so you have to be able to tighten it while on the tractor.

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Linda(NY)

08-06-2003 16:01:17




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: a clunking noise in the le in reply to Trevor, 08-06-2003 10:37:27  
Thank you, Trevor. I have four clamps on my C--which should make it easier to do it your way.
Linda(NY)



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Trevor

08-06-2003 10:40:46




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: a clunking noise in the le in reply to Trevor, 08-06-2003 10:37:27  
Linda,

If your tractor only has 2 Clamp bolts just put them at the top and tighten them. Seems to me that our CA only had 2.

Hope all this helps.



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