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How do you tell the diffrence between a WC and a W

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will hines

06-30-2003 12:04:36




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will hines

07-02-2003 15:22:14




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 Re: How do you tell the diffrence between a WC and in reply to will hines, 06-30-2003 12:04:36  
the w needs to have a d after it but there wasn't enough room. how can i tell what year my wd-45 is?



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steve

07-01-2003 15:23:01




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 Re: How do you tell the diffrence between a WC and in reply to will hines, 06-30-2003 12:04:36  
the WC started out as a basic "pull" unstyled tractor in the mid 1930. later int he 1940s it was "styled" then upadated to the WD. about 1950 it was changed to the WD45 with additional updates. The basic motor [ block] continued to be used on the D17 tractor up till the late 1960s.



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JMS/MN

07-02-2003 00:12:56




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 Re: Re: How do you tell the diffrence between a WC in reply to steve, 07-01-2003 15:23:01  
The WD45 came out in late 1953, and the engine is not the same as a WC or WD. D17 came out in 1957 and the engine is not the same as the WD45. WC was styled in 1938-39. WD came out in 1948.



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Eldon

07-02-2003 14:28:27




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 Re: Re: Re: How do you tell the diffrence between in reply to JMS/MN, 07-02-2003 00:12:56  

Actually the WC/WD block is different. It has the large rectangular steel plate on the right hand side. The "power crater" blocks have no plate.



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Dave Wi.

07-02-2003 11:16:03




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 Re: Re: Re: How do you tell the diffrence between in reply to JMS/MN, 07-02-2003 00:12:56  
I beg to differ,you will find the same block up to the 170,same block,different stroke,cam and RPM.
WC-4X4,WD-4x4,WD45-4x41/2,D17 gas-4x41/2,and170 gas-4x41/2



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Dave Wi.

07-02-2003 11:15:35




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 Re: Re: Re: How do you tell the diffrence between in reply to JMS/MN, 07-02-2003 00:12:56  
I beg to differ,you will find the same block up to the 170,same block,different stroke,cam and RPM.
WC-4X4,WD-4x4,WD45-4x41/2,D17 gas-$x41/2,and170 gas-4x41/2



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DanD.

07-02-2003 19:33:05




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: How do you tell the diffrence betw in reply to Dave Wi., 07-02-2003 11:15:35  
Actually, the WC/WD block is different from the 45 block, which is different from the model 17 block. The WC/WD block is different from the 45 block as mentioned in the other posts..most notably by the large steel plate covering the push rods on the earlier engine vs. the 45 that's just cast iron. The model 17 block is different from the 45 block in that the 17 has a reinforcing rib all along the side of the block toward the bottom. Also, internally the center main is the thrust bearing on the 17 while on the 45 I believe it's the front. Bearings may also be larger in the 17, but I'm not completely sure about that. And of course, the newer 17's have the full flow oil pressure system. While there are differences in the block, there are many interchangeable parts such as sleeves. Also, you can usually mount one engine in place of any other, with some modifications. That being said, the last model 17 engines (such as found in a 175, 170, or newer D17) are one heck of a lot more engine than that found in a WC or WD.

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DanD.

07-01-2003 14:32:31




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 Re: How do you tell the diffrence between a WC and in reply to will hines, 06-30-2003 12:04:36  
THere is no such thing as a model W.



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David Bacon

07-01-2003 19:11:26




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 Re: Re: How do you tell the diffrence between a WC in reply to DanD., 07-01-2003 14:32:31  
The model W is a WC basic---with a very long front end and a blade under it - up to a 14 ft was a option. It is usually called a W- road patrol. They are factory made by AC and I think they were made at two different locations. They are not to be confused with a WC with a narrow front end and a blade located under it. The W had a wide front end, hand wheels to raise and lower the blade, and were only made in the tear drop gas tank (styled) models. I have one, and a implment (JD) dealer also has one for grading his lot. He will not part with it either. I use mine often. At one time they were used by the county to maintain the gravel roads, but gave way to the larger road patrols. If I recal correctly the Story of Allis by Chuck Wendel has a few pictures in it. Dave in NE Iowa

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